Stook's Recommended Movie Game

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  • The Vague Idea:
  • By now everyone knows how this works, recommend a movie, have one recommended, blah blah. When I made my little sojourn to find myself a month ago (I found me right where I left myself [snicker]) my little project seemed all but dead. Then Lukeprog expressed interest in getting back to it, which made me think, “if someone as cool as Luke would wanna be part of this little shindig, who wouldn’t?” Well...

  • I’ve added a few quirks; more movies to watch and a couple of films everyone can watch to feel that much need sense of community. Thanks the GC for the excellent formatting.


  • The Legend
  • this means you have watched the film
  • this means you haven't watched the film
  • this means you've read too far expecting a lot of formatting from a variably lazy person.


  • 1922
  • picked by stook

  • Storm Over Asia (1928)
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)
  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • The Killers (1946)
  • Point Blank (1967)


  • AAA
  • picked by stook

  • A Thousand Pieces Of Gold (1992)
  • Morvern Callar (2002)
  • Orlando (1992)
  • The Stunt Man (1980)
  • With A Friend Like Harry (2001)


  • AJDaGreat
  • picked by Grandpa_chum

  • Hud (1963)
  • picked by stook

  • Chocolat (2000)
  • Happy Together (1997)
  • Matilda (1996)
  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • Two-Lane Blacktop (1971)
  • review here
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)


  • Bertie
  • picked by stook

  • Body And Soul (1947)
  • Chocolat (2000)
  • Holes (2003)
  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)


  • CMonster
  • picked by stook

  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • No Way To Treat A Lady
  • **Dude (stook). Ow, my eyes. The first 20 minutes of the movie are okay, but then the rest of it just gets a little cliched. At one point, and I hate to confess this, but at one point we fast-forwarded a part to see if we could guess what would happen. "Brummel! You're off the case! You rogue cop with your amateur psychology!" We were totally right.

    I should probably be more specific. Let's see. I didn't care for any of the main characters. I didn't care if Brummel cracked the case or cracked whatsherbucket and her crazy, crazy hair. Even-crazy-for-1968 hair. Yeah, she moved across town in two days because of the ghost of her neighbor. I didn't care if the murderer got away with it, although I have to say that the accents were the highlight of the movie.
  • Full Contact (1992)
  • The Warriors (1979)
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)


  • Grandpa_chum
  • picked by stook

  • Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia (1974)
  • First off I gotta hand it to Stook for recommending this absolute gem of a movie and picking the perfect guy to recommend it to... All I needed was one more great film from Peckinpah to bolster him into my elite group of favorites directors and I got it... After seeing this film I finally realize what Robert Rodriguez is aiming for, and i think i've gained some respect for him in the process, sure he falls miserably short, but at least i realized it is possible to make a great movie that reminded me of RR's efforts... This is a modern day zapatta western of sorts, and i love the moral conflicts of a bounty hunter stories, and this is probably the best I've seen... The slow motion deaths of peckinpah's aren't overdone here, as they are in some of his films and the final hour is just as exciting as the first hour was intriguing... this film works so well with itself and it's characters it's hard to believe how simple the plot is. Warren Oates is amazing, absolutely believable in every action he takes, and you really start to root for him to walk away with the money, and then when you realize his motives it just takes off... a great film from a great Director, please, don't see The Wild Bunch as if it were Sam's greatest, it will only depreciate your respect for his work, as it did for me for a while. This movie goes right up there with the three Peckinpah films I know to be better than The Wild Bunch... along with Cable Hogue and High Country... true masterpieces. Rating:89%
  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • One-Eyed Jacks (1961)
  • First of all i had very high expectations going into this movie, i had one friend, who's opinion of movies i hold highest second only to my own, saying it was a great movie... and that was the cropped terrible fullscreen dvd containing 6 other westerns... I happened to be lucky enough to pick up the widescreen dvd, and although it was a very good movie, it did not hold up to my expectations... the music was terrible, some of the worst I've heard, even for an old western... Acting was basically a split, because brando, pickens, johnson, malden, and jurado were great, but everyone else was utterly terrible, even for bit parts... the story was ok, but i don't get how people say this is "not just another revenge western" because YES it IS, and as far as the plot goes, it's a pretty crappy revenge western at that... Now, i watched it twice, and i still never felt any compassion for rio's cause, first off it seemed as though rio never really expected dad to make it back in time anyhow, and even if dad ran off, rio had no real way of knowing dad's story wasn't true... secondly rio's whole love affair with dad's stepdaughter never really gets a chance to take off, in the current version of the film there is only 1 night they spend together, and as far as i know, the only thing that happens is that rio lies to her, they have sex, and then in the morning rio confesses to lieing to her... thats it, and i'm supposed to care if the two of them make it together in the end... all in all, it was very well directed, and the acting for the 5 stars was great, but an incredibly weak plot, and terrible support acting really brought it down from being a great movie... apparantly brandos first cut was nearer to 4 hours... it would be interesting to know how the plot held up in a longer version, but in it's current version i gave it 77%
  • Only Angels Have Wings (1938)
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)


  • Imposter
  • picked by stook

  • L'Atalante (1934)
  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • Stalker (1979)
  • Time After Time (1979)
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)


  • Jgandcag
  • picked by stook

  • An Unfinished Piece For Player Piano (1977)
  • Up! (1976)
  • Lone Wolf And Cub: Sword Of Doom (1971)
  • Marianne & Julianne (1982)
  • Burden Of Dreams (1982)


  • Jim
  • picked by Rushmore

  • The Pallbearer (1996)
  • review here
  • Reality Bites (1993)
  • picked by Imposter

  • The Ladykillers (1955)
  • review here
  • picked by stook

  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • People Will Talk (1951)
  • Sayonara (1957)
  • review here
  • Time After Time (1979)
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)


  • lbangs
  • picked by stook

  • All Of Me (1984)
  • It's A Wonderful World (1939)
  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • Up! (1976)
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)


  • Lukeprog
  • picked by Grandpa_chum

  • A Fistfull Of Dollars (1965)
  • **Bad dubbing (of course, there's no other kind) and several corny moments aside, this is probably the most fun I've ever had while watching a Western. It's not as finely-crafted or epic as Good-Bad-Ugly, the only other Leone film I've seen, but it's kind of a 'Raiders of the Lost Ark Western' that gives you such a damn good time you can't help but love it. And, I'm a sucker for heroes that get the shit beat out of them.
  • Once Upon A Time In The West (1968)
  • picked by stook

  • All The King's Men (1949)
  • **There are many cookie-cutter elements in this movie, but they taste as good as cookies usually do. I'm a sucker for good guys becoming bad guys and vice versa, and this movie has that kind of moral confusion in spades. Unfortunately, the nature of this story's scope calls for a great deal of ellipsis which isn't particularily well done. Also, the whole movie seemed a little obvious, plot point by plot point. But for some reason, that didn't keep me from really liking it.
  • Narrow Margin (1950)
  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • The Night Of The Shooting Stars (1982)
  • **Night of the Shooting Stars is a touching WWII survival story told with an original tone and structure that is tastier and fresher than Life is Beautiful (but also demands more of the viewer). It's a good thing the story is so engaging, too, because otherwise there are few conventional techniques (for this type of story) with which to 'settle' in - indeed, there won't be much 'settling' at all due to the film's energy and pace.
    For me, the film didn't have the nostalgia factor you experienced, and I think I would have preferred the editing to be less self-conscious, but this was still a really fun film - thanks for the recommendation! I think all my friends and relatives would still prefer Life is Beautiful, unfortunately.
  • Up! (1976)
  • Sherlock Holmes And The Scarlet Claw (1944)
  • **True to its literary source, this Sherlock Holmes adventure is formulaic, preoccupied with investigative details, and has more plot twists than Chinatown. Because there's nothing special in the direction, writing, acting, or elsewhere, it comes off as a well-executed TV movie. 70/100 .


  • Odysseus
  • picked by stook

  • Male And Female (1919)
  • Ever After (1997)
  • My Brilliant Career (1979)
  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)


  • RosieCotton
  • picked by Grandpa_chum

  • The Quiet Man (1950)
  • Picked by Stook

  • Le Dernier Combat (1983)
  • review here
  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • Ruby In Paradise (1993)
  • review here
  • The Song Of Bernadette (1943)
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)


  • Rushmore
  • picked by Lukeprog

  • What's Eating Gilbert Grape? (1993)
  • picked by Grandpa_chum

  • Hard Eight (1998)
  • picked by Jim

  • Zero Effect (1993)
  • review here
  • Picked by stook

  • Never Give A Sucker An Even Break (1941)
  • Philidelphia Story (1940)
  • review here
  • To Be Or Not To Be (1942)
  • Whiskey Galore (1949)


  • Stook
  • Picked by AJDaGreat

  • Hail The Conquering Hero (1944)
  • review here
  • Picked by Cmonster

  • Wing Chun (1994)
  • review here
  • The Imposters (1999)
  • review here
  • The Girl In The Picture (1986)
  • review here
  • picked by Grandpa_chum

  • Companeros (1970)
  • Keoma (1976)
  • picked by Imposter

  • Eyes Without A Face (1959)
  • review here
  • picked by Jim

  • Sorcerer (1977)
  • review here
  • Master Of The Flying Guillotine (1975)
  • review here
  • Picked by Lukeprog

  • Day Of Wrath (1943)
  • review here
  • Judex (1916)

I love the idea, but you're kinda going out on a limb for me, aren't you? I'm on record as being underwhelmed by Brando, and you're going to stick me with almost 2:30 of him?

I'm going to make a Malbro fan outaya even if it hurts. :?) I promise you it's unlike anything you've ever seen him do...in a cheesy, good way.

T'ho

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Okay, you're on. My choice for you: Sorcerer.

Dang, I just noticed the movie you are having me watch you only rate as a mere "good". I should have given you Master of the Flying Guillotine. :-)

snicker :?)

Why? Because it's a weeeeeeeeeeeinah!

Sorry. Love that movie.

Oh yes, I dig it too, it's just a riskier proposition as a recommendation.

Hmmm. Why?

I think it (and most kung fu movies from that era) is only likely to appeal to a rather narrow band of the population. Such movies are an acquired taste. So if you're trying to pick a movie that the average movie-goer is going to like, Master of the Flying Guillotine is not the safe-money play. Now, stooky isn't an average movie-goer, and I expect he'll like it, but I still think it's a risker proposition in general, recommendation-wise.

I'd just never thought about what makes a recommendation "risky" or "safe" in this context. I mean, there are people in my life who I will definitely not recommend certain movies too, or will explicitly label certain movies as risky because they might be triggering, but I hadn't thought about it in a larger context.

I guess that makes Wing Chun risky too, which is a shame. So to what extent does the risk come from the excessive violence of a lot of the movies, or the reliance on myth, or just the fact that these are movies from a non-dominant culture in this population?

I think the risk comes in recommending things that might be completely outside someone's experience, as they lack a meaningful framework within which they can evaluate it. If someone recognizes the blueprint, they can pretty easily say "oh yeah, that was a good implementation of the blueprint." But if they don't, they have to get over their shock first. Big generalizations here, of course, as some folks are more receptive than others.

You see this a lot with old movies, in addition to obscure genre flicks. My theory is that you (the editorial "you") have to watch a bunch of classics before you start digging them. At least, that's been my personal experience. The more I watch, the more I like.

I can think of a couple exceptions, and I have to confess, I've never ever (until this moment) wondered whether the person I was making a recommendation to had the appropriate framework to appreciate it without wanting to throw rocks at the screen in the first 20 minutes. Although I realize that I do that all the time when recommending poets and poetry to people.

Usually, I recommend movies based on:

1. Movies that transcend either the genre and/or movies in general to be AWESOME.
2. If you know a person and know they generally like to be engaged, the movie can be 75% awesome and you can still feel safe about recommending it (this happened when I recommended The Gift to someone at work. It was way outside her experience, but she and her boyfriend both loved it).
3. If you know a person well enough to know that they just dig movies and books on certain topics. Still another friend likes to see every horror movie ever. And I know her well enough to know that if the horror movie in question involves a remote cabin of sometime, she'll love it, regardless of whether I (or 10,000 people on IMDB) hated it.

Although, come to think of it, I guess I could construe 3 as feeling safer recommending horror movies to her because of the reasons you cited. Consider my little mind blown.

:-) You nailed a caveat I meant to mention: movies that transcend their genre-flick roots are definitely the way to get folks' feet wet in a given genre.

Woohoo, I'm on it.

:?)

Ha! I'm on here? Well, you're lucky I happened to catch this post while it was on the 'recent updates' sidebar. I will watch it this week and I'll just post some comments in here, I think. :-)

Don't ask me for too many reviews, though - or else I'll be drawn back into gorging myself on this tasty community until I burst.

You're on here because you pretty well have to be on here...along with Rushmore and Bertie. ie. massive movie freaks. RosieCotton snuck in cus she's a mighty cool lady.

Sounds good, I was wondering whether or not to tempt you whilst you go almost cold turkey, but why the heck not.

Thanks for participating. :?)

T'ho

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{{{Stooky}}}<---RosieCotton hugging Stooky for complimenting her.

Thanks. But watch the clothing.:?)

They're easy to give if the person deserves em.

:?)

Night of the Shooting Stars is a touching WWII survival story told with an original tone and structure that is tastier and fresher than Life is Beautiful (but also demands more of the viewer). It's a good thing the story is so engaging, too, because otherwise there are few conventional techniques (for this type of story) with which to 'settle' in - indeed, there won't be much 'settling' at all due to the film's energy and pace.

For me, the film didn't have the nostalgia factor you experienced, and I think I would have preferred the editing to be less self-conscious, but this was still a really fun film - thanks for the recommendation! I think all my friends and relatives would still prefer Life is Beautiful, unfortunately.

I often wonder if it is admirable for a film to require so much from the viewer (Night is not the prime example. But, say: L'Avventura). A common argument is that if a film forces you to really pay attention, you become more invested in the characters. But I didn't have to work my brain at all for It's a Wonderful Life, but I was far more invested in those characters and that story that in ANY other movie EVER. So, it might be a supreme achievement not to tax a viewer and still fully engage them in the story and characters.

Thoughts?

P.S. A DVD note - I wonder if, when writing subtitles for a rhyming poem in a foriegn-language film, do they often rewrite the poem a bit (without significantly changing the meaning) to rhyme in the subtitled language as well? Because the 'comfort poem' in Night rhymes in English, but the wording seemed very awkward (as if it was 'stretched' to make it rhyme).

Oh yeah, and:

this will probably give people the wrong impression of the movie, but it might be impossible to dislike a film with this shot it in it.

I applaud your interesting and concise review considering your 1-hour time frame and I’m very glad you liked it; this movie seemed to be a good choice for you. I'm anticipating reviews from the others and see if they faired as well as you considering I tried to pick movies that fit their tastes.

My thoughts on this subject:

I feel the same basic way about entertainment vs. infotainment, for example tonight I went to see "The Incredibles" and found myself more interested in it than some pretentious movie such as Dogville that tries to force “searching questions” down my windpipe. Plus I garnered as much about human nature from the obviously lighter film. (Yet I consider complicated filmmaking admirable because it shows respect for the audience and sits a tad closer to some kind of topic most times. Plus the majority of the classic “demanding” films generally repay the attention you give.) My first thought about film is that it’s entertainment, meant to satiate people’s need for laughter, sorrow, excitement, etc. and when a filmmaking denies this basic tenet (like Antonionio can sometimes do) it lessens the film…for me anyway. That usually means that I’m more invested in films that “give my brain something to giggle about” so to speak.

There is a sub-debate to this point however concerning what exactly is a demanding film to different people. Take "Swept Away" (74) for instance, I watched it with my sister about three years ago and we had completely different opinions at the end. I felt that the aggrandized tone which includes (semi) graphic sexuality was entertaining because to my man brain the topic “the healing power of sexuality and the need for love” fit me perfectly, I was as enthralled and entertained as when I watched “His Girl Friday”. On the other hand my sister found the persistent sadomasochistic relationship revolting and was repulsed by it’s almost operatic tone. And for the opposite of that debate “The French Lieutenant’s Woman” which plays like this films alter ego with extreme repression replacing the aggression of the other film. The arguments are reversed with my sister rating it high in entertainment and me being completely bored. Both these films require a lot from the viewer but cater to totally different tastes and therefore become easier to watch for certain people. I hope that makes sense.

To answer your last question…yes.

T’ho

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I wouldn't say I was really talking about entertainment vs. infotainment - but perhaps we have different definitions for 'infotainment.'

Perhaps Tokyo Story is a good example. That film constantly required hard work on my part for two recurring reasons. Consecutive shots were often flipped so that I was immediately disoriented and had to 'get my bearings.' Also, characters often began to talk about events or people before we know anything about them - so that a full minute of dialogue is completely cryptic to the audience. These techniques were 'interesting' in that they were rare among films, but they decreased my engagement in the film (I spent too much time trying to figure out what the hell was going on instead of becoming emotionally invested in the characters and scenarios), and they taxed my resources instead of entertaining me.

As such, I can respect Tokyo Story as innovative... but innovative to what end? There are three things I want from a movie: entertainment, engagement, and originality (usually, in that order). In succeeding with originality (though, perhaps not - I haven't seen Ozu's earlier films!), Tokyo Story sacrifices the other two qualities.

Perhaps you and others have a different set of qualities you want from a movie, but for me, a film like Being John Malkovich epitomizes what I want from a movie. It was original, but not in a way that overly taxed my resources, meaning that I could still be entertained and engaged.

When I refer to 'being taxed,' I am only referring to how much my brain has to work just to 'keep up.' But I realized there are other methods of taxation. For example, some might find excessive violence or sexuality or language taxing on them as they watch the film. For me, it would be an abundance of cliche or just plain bad filmmaking (The Day After Tomrrow, Hulk, etc.). I also don't often enjoy musical numbers (as in, during a musical). For others, it might be sappy romance. For others, it might be more specifically thematic, as with 'the healing power of sexuality and the need for love.'

I also love to get my brain giggling, but I can get that from the third layer of a 'The Simpsons' joke and enjoy it more than from an obscure social argument being made by an uninterpretable visual metaphor (or something like that).

Infotainment is a reference to an inside joke me and the sis have based on watching a Cher movie. (Trust me, it would take a long time to explain.) Essentially the inside joke refers to (to quote you) "an obscure social argument being made by an uninterruptible visual metaphor", I'm glad we're on the same page.

I just watched "Last Year In Marienbad" (to ponderously name another movie for the miscellaneous reader who happens by) and it falls into this category perfectly, it remains a complex puzzle even after watching it. The relentless mysterious complications requires, to enjoy the film, a pieces of a indecipherable plot present in your mind then filing new pieces into the right slot as the opportunity presents itself. I can just imagine a film newbie running away screaming because you either have to play this convoluted cinema game or not, there’s no middle ground.

What am I talking about? I'm glad someone asked.

When judging any movie it has to meet no immediate criteria for me, I allot a certain amount of attention or I stop watching. There is no point in watching a film you don't want to see and aren't willing to give your full attention. You of course needn't give

The Hulk

as much attention as a great film since there's less combinations of visual, verbal, plot to decipher. Generally these films require a peripheral level of attention to be enjoyed and therefore work as candy for the brain (don't do it all the time or it'll rot your brain). Of course I enjoy innovation, complexity and entertainment as much as the next person. And because I never have an expectation for them to be there I appreciate it more because it’s there.

Still what am I talking about?

What do I expect from a film? Virtually nothing. Which is why I'm generally entertained by most films I watch. There are exceptions of course, like

The Butterfly Effect

which requires you pay attention to decipher what turns out there’s nothing at the center since the plot doesn’t make sense anyway. It’s my hope that films never ask me to decipher a mystery when it doesn’t actually have one. And that’s totally off subject by I typed it anyway.

Which brings me around to my final point? Yes it does.

What’s the purpose of innovation and complexity in film? It’s you. You are mentally interjected in the film to interact with what’s happening and if you have nothing to interject (because you don’t feel emotionally attached to the story, didn’t understand the point, etc.) into the film the innovation becomes essentially useless. Which is why art is so fascinating and why a site called listology draws a large amount of people with differing opinions; it’s really fascinating.

T'ho

:?)

Oh yeah, and you've got another recommendation up there (in case you missed it).

T'ho

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Where did you obtain a copy of "Last Year In Marienbad"?

Zip.ca is proving worth it's weight in gold...or 24.95 that is. Canada is looking like the new haven for cinephilia (new word).

How's it going with La Dernier Combat?

T'ho

:?)

I expect to receive it from Netflix today. I'll watch and review it in the next day or two.

You ever noticed that when you want a film to come it's always a day late, but if you don't expect the film it's a day early. That's Murphy's Law right there (not the one with Charles Bronson).

T'ho

:?)

Indeed.

I received and watched Le Dernier Combat today. I thought it was weird, but good. It's about a man who has survived some kind of apocalypse that has turned the world into a wasteland. He must battle other men for food, survival, and something to live for. It's kind of a medieval romantic fantasy mixed with modern cynicism.

OK, Stook, here's my review of Le Dernier Combat:
http://netflix.blog-city.com/read/917082.htm.

Please tell me what you think of it.

"The lack of dialog, the art direction, the style, put you right in that world, in which you can feel the presence of our lost way of life as if it were a memory from your childhood. But it's not about civilization. It's about character, human nature. It's about who you are when no one is looking."

That's an absolutely perfect description of Le Dernier Combat, and it's written in a way that's somehow very easy to read. Great review Rosie, kinda makes me wish you'd write a few more.

T'ho

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P.S.: The link you provided displays an error:Cannot find page warning. I've linked to the homepage since your review seems to be prominant, but I'm not sure for how long. Do you want me to transfer it to this page? Do you want to provide another link? Am I asking too many questions?

I'm sorry the link doesn't work. It's supposedly the permanent link for that post. If you would like to include the text of the review on this page, you are welcome to copy and paste it here.

I'm afraid my review-writing engine is very hard to crank, especially in cold weather. Thanks for the push :). You are too kind.

I plan to obtain Ruby in Paradise and review it also.

Here's the proper link. The other one didn't work because it includes a period at the end.

http://netflix.blog-city.com/read/917082.htm

Sometimes I'm so dumb I suprise even myself, of course there's no period. :?S

Sorry about that. :?)

T'ho

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No problem.

In a nutshell, then:

Great art is different things to different people. For every person who loves Hopper, there is another who equally adores Picasso. The lovers quarrel at Listology (pardon my romanticism; I just watched Children of Paradise).

Right?

Gack, another recommendation already? Okay, fine, but it may be a while before I get to that one.

Well if you want to pare down my long-winded (and brilliant if I say so myself, why doesn't a newspaper pay me. Possibly because I don't work for one.) examination of film...yes. Oooo Children Of Paradise, it's coming to me next from Zip.ca so I'll actually know what you're talking about in a week.

You'll love this film and that's a promise...but take your time.

T'ho

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It's always my mission to marginalize the genius of others in favor of my own.

Your own? (Snicker snicker)

Sorry, sorry, but you left yourself open for that one. ;?)

T'ho

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I know, I was gonna bloat it by ending it with 'my own percieved brilliance' but decided to let someone take the stab.

Do I have to actually find and watch the movie? Won't it do if I just very thoroughly research it?
Seriously, I can't easily get my mitts on just any movie you care to mention, especially one so old (hell, it's older than me!). Is this a hitting movie? I swear, I only bought Raging Bull on DVD because Roger Ebert said there was a lot of really cool coarse language in it:-D

I've alotted a replacement pick. I must admit I never thought about how hard these movies were to see. Oh well, cest la vie.

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I'm game, with two exceptions. One, we get all our movies via Netflix, so it'll take a week for whatever it is to arrive. Two, um...no animal movies. At all.

For you, I recommend Wing Chun (1994). And I have to say, I can't believe how long it took me to pick a recommendation for you, because you have seen. So. Many. Movies.

Wow. Almost every single movie I like you've seen. And they're all Cellar Dwellers. Heh.

Wow! I've never heard of Wing Chun, and will certainly try and get that one, but you'll have to take a back seat to Jim who was the first to recommend a movie. That movie being Sorcerer, but Wing Chun will be the next week's film.

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Okay, not only did No Way to Treat a Lady arrive, but it got watched. Aaaaaaand returned.

Dude. Ow, my eyes. The first 20 minutes of the movie are okay, but then the rest of it just gets a little cliched. At one point, and I hate to confess this, but at one point we fast-forwarded a part to see if we could guess what would happen. "Brummel! You're off the case! You rogue cop with your amateur psychology!" We were totally right.

I should probably be more specific. Let's see. I didn't care for any of the main characters. I didn't care if Brummel cracked the case or cracked whatsherbucket and her crazy, crazy hair. Even-crazy-for-1968 hair. Yeah, she moved across town in two days because of the ghost of her neighbor. I didn't care if the murderer got away with it, although I have to say that the accents were the highlight of the movie.

I come right back at you with: The Impostors (1998).

Wow! That's a bucket of dislike right there. Thanks for watching...I guess. :?)

The Imposters...you are a cruel cruel reccomender. :?) I've been avoiding watching this film for years and now you've trapped me into it. Ouch.

T'ho

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New favorite phrase: 'bucket of dislike'.

Yeah, The Impostors is one of my favorite movies. You're doomed. :D

Thankyou, thankyou. I'm here to please.

I remember the reviews being less than glowing that year although O. Platt happens to be one of my favourite, crappy movie making, actors so we'll see. I can get it tonight...how's that for fast.

T'ho

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Not only have I not seen it, I've never even *heard* of it. Awesome. It's at the top of the queue.

Although for a moment there I was so confused. There's also "Full Contact: The Making of Any Given Sunday" (kill me now) and "Full Contact" (1993): "Luke Powers travels to L.A. to find that his brother has been murdered in a back alley martial arts tournament..."

Although to be fair, I'd totally watch that second one.

Gratzi. Will report back later.

Buck up little trooper. It's got a fabulous ensemble cast. How can you say no to Lily Taylor and Alison Janney? You can't, is the answer. And yes, hella impressive that you can get The Impostors tonight.

I've seen Gregory's Girl, and I rate it average.

Sweethearts (1996).

Wait, am I supposed to wait until I watch my recommendation from you before giving you another recommendation?

Nope, you can reccomend what you like, but I was reading the plot and I've seen this film(although it managed to slip through the yearly listing) and I'd rate it about average although it is very interesting.

T'ho

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Okay, how about The Girl in the Picture (1986)?

Girl In The Picture it is. :?)

I'm glad you liked Girl in the Picture. It's one of the few romantic comedies I have ever liked.

As for Full Contact....I almost liked it. Let me explain. At first glance it looked like a bad Miami Vice-like clone of late 80s John Woo films. But right after Jeff (who was translated as "Godfrey" in the version we had) saves Sam, the movie got a lot more likeable and interesting. The pacing is breakneck from there on out, and the last 45 minutes are intense and memorable. The cinematography throughout looks like it should be beautiful, like this was a great cinematographer's first film; the ice fight was gorgeous. On the down side, some kind of important plot twists were really difficult to follow, one so much so that we had to stop the movie and discuss what we thought just happened. Kind of a bummer. Also? Hated Virgin (who was translated as Yin in our copy). Hated her. She made the screen crawl. But overall, using the stook movie evalutation system, Average.

(Sorry about the delay, btw. Miscommunication between netflix accountholders).

Next for you: Dirty Pretty Things (2002).

nice idea! thankyou for including me. Philidelphia Story sounds great. lol one week!! its gonna be tough, down to the rental shop for me! thing is i'm between internet rentals at the moment, i was on dvd365.co.uk but i ran out of my trial for that so im hoping to move to blockbuster, but i'm looking forward to the challenge!

Sounds good, a first week extension has been given as I kinda sprung this one on everybody. Have fun and enjoy...as I know you will. :?)

T'ho

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I'm flattered that you included me :). Is this a test?

I'll get mine from Netflix on Monday, probably. You picked one that's already in my queue. Was that deliberate?

I loved La Femme Nikita and the Fifth Element.

You're an interesting person, Stook.

Totally unintentional...other than I remember you saying you liked Besson somewhere on listology. I'm just a lucky fella I guess.

Thanks for participating.

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ha! Stooky, can i take advantage of your idea and suggest you choose pick one more for jim...The Pallbearer!! i've been trying to get him to watch it and if its ''under-cover'' as ''your'' selection for him, he may watch it..he he just a suggestion!

find out more about this epic saga HERE

(you dont have to stooky 'im just joking really but.. if you find it in your heart to help poor rushmore's task :0)

By the basic gist of the game, you've just recommended next week's movie for him. I'll just have to do a little typing and...

T'ho

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Umm, okay, fine.

So to recap I am now going to be watching a long, relatively obscure movie by an actor I don't particularly like that was recommended by someone who only rates the movie a step above "average" himself, and another movie recommended by a Listologist who couldn't even find TWO OTHER Listologists to endorse it (this out of over 4,000 Listologists, 164 of whom were active in the past month); a movie that scores abysmally in pretty much every meta-critic engine out there, and that ROGER EBERT LIKED, fer cryin' out loud!

I'm trying, trying to keep an open mind, but I'm thinking my participation in this game is going to be short-lived. :-)

Rushmore, the movie you must watch in return is Zero Effect. If you've seen it, I'll pick something else.

To be fair, 98 minutes is not that long.

The first movie I was referring to is Sayonara, and clocks in at 147 minutes. But hey, I guess if I'm going to watch Brando in a kimono I may as well watch LOTS of Brando in a kimono. The second movie, The Pallbearer, is indeed only 98 minutes, but it's length wasn't listed as one of my causes for concern.

My bad, I thought you were talking about the Pallbearer the whole time. I thought you didn't like David Schwimmer or something. But now I see that stooky has it as a Cellar Dweller, not as Good.

I promise it's not going to make you wretch...you may even enjoy Malbro for the first time in your life. You must trust me that I know whereof I speak. As for the Pallbearer it's just lightweight fluff, and technically Rushmore does have the power (however scary that is).

BTW Sorcerer is at the top of my VHQ account so I'll probably be getting it on monday.

And I've also rec'd one you're guaranteed to at least enjoy a great deal, and it's in my Great section.

T'ho

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Excellent! I look forward to hearing your thoughts on Sorcerer. And I did like Brando in Streetcar, so if I like him here it'll be the second movie of his I've liked. Hopefully Netflix will get it to me today or tomorrow. More to follow...

cool, hope you didn't mind my slightly underhanded way of getting you too watch it. np, i'll watch zero effect.

PS: really i'm only suggesting "The Pallbearer" because i think you'll like it. i wouldn't do it if i thought you'd hate it.

Also is Zero Effect the movie with Ben stiller in it? i've done some research and it loooks like i'll really like this noe, it sounds funny and quirky, and i love those kinds of movies.

Oh Jim, Have you seen Reality Bites? if so what did you think , i loved it.

Not underhanded, you wore me down fair and square. :-)

Yes, Zero Effect has Bill Pullman and Ben Stiller in it (and an excellent Kim Dickens).

I haven't seen Reality Bites. I like the cast, so maybe I'll have to check it out.

I humbly apologize for all the crap I gave you about how bad The Pallbearer must be, and how much kicking and screaming I did as you dragged me off to see it. :-)

Stook, where do I go to submit my review?

post it right under here if you want to and I'll just move it up top. It doesn't have to be very long, maybe a paragraph or two, what you thought, would have liked, did like, etc.

I can't wait for the review! :?)

T'ho

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Okay stook, here's one I watched just last night that's on your "unfortunately haven't seen" list for 1959: Eyes Without A Face.

I'll be very surprised if it doesn't make your "great" tier.

I'm now looking for that one too, thanks for the pick I've been wanting to see that one for a while now and just needed some incentive.

Yours is of course listed above.

T'ho

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You may quonsider it queued.

Eyes Without A Face just got a nice release from Criterion. You're in for a treat there, stook.

Storm Over Asia, interesting.
I'll try to watch this film within a week, but I'm not sure if I'll manage to.
Here's my problem: I think most of listologists get their DVDs from Netflix. The problem is that I live in Luxembourg, and I don't think they send their DVDs to Lux. Nevertheless, I'll check out a library and hope that anyone in the family has got it on DVD or VHS.

Luxembourg! Well...that pick may be a tad hard to pick up, I'll have to make up something for the less than netflixing folks. Although, the CD game fizzled like a gasping duck in oil so I shouldn't complain.

T'ho

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Thanks for including me! Sadly, I don't have Netflix, and while I've heard there are pretty nice places on campus to rent DVDs, somehow I doubt they'll have Two-Lane Blacktop.

Sorry, I suck at both of these games. :-)

No worries, college is more important than this game (but only in degrees :?)), You never know though, plus you've given me a new idea.

T'ho

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This will be interesting. While most critics hated The Pallbearer, I liked it. While most critics love People Will Talk, I can live my entire life and never think about the film again.

So....You better write reviews if you see either of the above, Jim!

Shalom, y'all!

L. Bangs

Will do! I'm going to see how Sayanora and The Pallbearer go before committing to People Will Talk, but in about a week or so it should be all over but the screamin'.

You didn't like "People Will Talk"! How is that possible? Can you explain (after Jim watches it (You are getting sleepy Jim, you "will" watch all 3 films, now awake and remember nothing) cus I'd like to know.)

T'ho

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To update, I've just procured a cheap copy of Wing Chun from Ebay today and VHQ delivers Sorcerer whilst Zip.ca is handling Eyes Without A Face. So fear not my many recommeders, my schedule seems right on time. Now's about the time for the big G to smote me with small-pox or something while laughing hardily.

T'ho

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Stooky, ever seen a serial film? Am I 'allowed' to recommend one here? (it's 300 mins long - that's mostly why I'm wondering).

I will watch "Judex" if you want to recommend it, but it may take some time to get a copy. I'll put it down and start looking, can't promise anything though since it's a rather obscure title.

Yes I have seen (part of) a serial film, I caught half of Les Vampires about 2 years ago, sadly missing the other part, and enjoyed it very much.

Consider it queued. And yes I did just finish your thought. :?)

T'ho

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Ok, well then... oh. Yeah, I... oh. Okay, then... oh. Ummm, yeah.

Stooky! Awesome suggestion. I am all about the darkly comic thrillers, and I'm guessing there are zero animals involved. I'll report back after I watch it.

Btw, I'm getting a tattoo on Monday based on a portion of the novel "No Way to Treat a First Lady". Synchronicity is intriguing.

Thanks. No dogs, meatballs or any innocent love in this one, just a lot of great black comedy.

It was meant to be I guess, I'm waiting patiently for the reviews to come in.

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hi stook, i just checked on blockbuster and they don't have ''Philidelphia Story (1940) '' so what i'm going too do is try and find it cheap in the shops.

Alrighty, here's Sayonara. I actually thought it was a bit above average, but thought it was a cut beneath the movies I've already listed in that year as "Good". I also thought it would be lame to create my first "Pretty Good" tier just for its benefit. Anyway, click through for my full review, and thanks for the recommendation!

Not even bon vivant Malbro could sway you, that's a deeply ingrained dislike right there. Sorry about that...I truly thought you'd enjoy it more than "pretty good". That's like stepping in a dog turd and saying "well at least I didn't get any on my pants."

Good review! I agree, Red Butts is awsome in Sayonara.

T'ho

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Ha! Not quite that grim though. I don't believe I've ever stepped in dog poop and then thought "I'm glad I stepped in it", but I did say "I'm glad I watched it" with regards to Sayonara.

Here's a movie for Jim: The Ladykillers, the original from 1955. I know he dug an Ealing comedy I recommended to him a while back (that being Kind Hearts And Coronets), and it doesn't look like it's on any of his movie lists. And after Sayonara he could use a break. :-)

:-) I liked The Lavender Hill Mob too. Alrighty, The Ladykillers is queued (and I removed the Coens version), along with People Will Talk. Since I knocked off Sayonara and The Pallbearer (review coming probably tomorrow), I'm going to tackle a few other things in my queue first though.

Watching the Coen version, I so hated the pedantic style of the professor's speech, that I hit the fastforward button every time he opened his mouth. Since I live in the South, I hate to hear actors do a Southern accent badly, so that was another strike against it. I watched it only for the performance of Irma P. Hall, because she's getting Oscar buzz. You have spared yourself by removing it from your queue.

Cool. Is there anything else in my queue you'd warn me away from?

Looks OK to me. Nothing that I feel strongly about one way or the other. Would you want to know if I hated the ending of a movie, or would that be a spoiler?

Might be a spoiler, but I'd love to hear your thoughts after I see it (whatever it is) and review it in my usual place.

I'll be sure to let you know.

Okay, I've seen it and posted a review, now I'm on to Eyes Without A Face because it showed up first and "that's the way it crumbles...cookie wise."

Thanks for the Recommendation J.

T'ho

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Thanks for the review! Sorry the movie didn't work out better for you, but at least you dug that truck scene, which I agree is one of the best such scenes going.

It was a good movie, and as I remembered as watching it, I'd seen it before when I was about 14. Definately worth watching and definately a picture that exacts it's "suspense" pound of flesh with skill.

T'ho

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was beginning to think i was being left out... one eyed jacks... great... been wanting to see it... now i have some motivation.

i have a recommendation... lbangs... Teenagers from outer space(1959)... you might have seen it, shouldn't be hard to get.

Thanks! I'm included!!!

However, I fear I have already watched that film, both in regular and in MST3K-vision. :)

I, too, am from a little place called Studsville...

Shalom, y'all!

L. Bangs

Wow, I just noticed I *am* above. I don't know how in the world I missed that. We will see if I can nab a copy!

I just checked. My library has no copy, and it is not on DVD yet. I will explore a few more options... Hmmm....

Thanks, stook!

Shalom, y'all!

L. Bangs

i thought you probably had... and if you hadn't you should. but thats not an issue now.

big update on my recommended movies! i just ordered Zero Effect (should take about 4days to come) and Philidelphia Story is on tv tonight!!

Woo-hoo!

That's pretty darn lucky, good to hear.

To update...Judex is available on DVD but the clubs will not be getting it for another 2 months and I'm not keen on paying 32.95! online for it. I guess I'll just have to keep it listed and move on; I promise to give it a watch when I can. I'll move on to The Imposters, Cmonsters latest pernicious pick.

Rosie has a new pick as does Cmonster, but I suppose they'd like a few from someone else (hint hint) and overall I'm having a lot of fun. :?)

T'ho

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Seen it now, great movie loved it! - HERE is the review.

I'm all out of reccomendations (except for Judex but that seems pretty far away indeed, and I've still got 3 weeks to get it watched), Sock it to me.

T'ho

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Can I give one to you even though I haven't seen Two-Lane Blacktop yet? If so, since you seem to be a Preston Sturges fan, and since I think it's the only movie on this list of mine that you haven't seen, I'll recommend Hail the Conquering Hero.

Thankyou AJ, this is a great rec, and after watching Jim's rec I think I'm going to need it. ;?)

T'ho

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Master of the Flying Guillotine, of course!

O...My...Goodness! Reading the story makes me feel like a dwarf standing beside Ricardo Montalban saying "da pain boss, da pain." (sly reference to cheesy 70's TV show for anyone wondering "what the hell does that mean?")

T'ho

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But you know you can't wait. You even have it listed under "Unfortunately Haven't Seen" for that year. I'm thinking it's a pretty safe bet for a guy who loves The Bride with White Hair.

Good Gravy, how the heck did that get on my list. Ouch! I just shot myself in the foot. I'll hold off any further discussion and watch the darn thing, as quickly as possible kinda like pulling a bandaid off my hairy leg. (hairy leg reference obviously for the ladies, snicker).

T'ho

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one eyed jacks is tougher to get my hands on than i expected

I thought it potentially might be so I'll bolster the situation with a second rec.

T'ho

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wooohooo... bring me the head of alfredo garcia... that is on the western channel a couple times this week... which surprisingly i get... definitly have it seen soon... can't wait looks great.

My Review-

Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia(1974) First off I gotta hand it to Stook for recommending this absolute gem of a movie and picking the perfect guy to recommend it to... All I needed was one more great film from Peckinpah to bolster him into my elite group of favorites directors and I got it... After seeing this film I finally realize what Robert Rodriguez is aiming for, and i think i've gained some respect for him in the process, sure he falls miserably short, but at least i realized it is possible to make a great movie that reminded me of RR's efforts... This is a modern day zapatta western of sorts, and i love the moral conflicts of a bounty hunter stories, and this is probably the best I've seen... The slow motion deaths of peckinpah's aren't overdone here, as they are in some of his films and the final hour is just as exciting as the first hour was intriguing... this film works so well with itself and it's characters it's hard to believe how simple the plot is. Warren Oates is amazing, absolutely believable in every action he takes, and you really start to root for him to walk away with the money, and then when you realize his motives it just takes off... a great film from a great Director, please, don't see The Wild Bunch as if it were Sam's greatest, it will only depreciate your respect for his work, as it did for me for a while. This movie goes right up there with the three Peckinpah films I know to be better than The Wild Bunch... along with Cable Hogue and High Country... true masterpieces.

Or you can find the same review here- Bring Me The Head Of Alfredo Garcia(1974)

also gave it an 89 out of 100 rating if you're wondering.

Stooky, my recommendation of a pre-1920, foreign, very long serial film seems unfair and completed undesired. Please REMOVE Judex from your list of picks via me and replace it with Vredens dag (Day of Wrath) from 1943.

I really do want to watch it and certainly will attempt to, I'll leave it there until I have a chance to do so. As for Day Of Wrath (another film I've longed to see for years) I'll put it on my to see. It was a good reccomendation, it's just hard to get ahold of just now. It's been released on DVD though and it's not long before the clubs have a copy.

T'ho

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Ok Hi stooky, saw Jim's Pick for me "Zero Effect" Yesterday, HERE Is the review!

Ps - Stooky (or anyone)got any more picks for me?

Based many of your favorite movies, Rushmore, I would recommend the following. I'm sure you've seen some of them, so I'll just let you pick out the ones you haven't seen yet and take those as my recommendations for you:

Do the Right Thing
A Clockwork Orange
What's Eating Gilbert Grape
The Game
Igby Goes Down
Mad City

the only one i've seen of those is The Game, so i'll choose another, thx! Gilbert Grape sounds good. hhhhmm ill think it over

Anyone else think that "What's Eating Gilbert Grape" souns like an early John Candy Film? :)

John Candy? Okay you're gonna have to explain that one.

T'ho

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ok, i accept luke's challenge to see "whats eating gilbert grape" that won out of the others on his list because it was co-written by the wrtier of Pieces of April and About A boy, Both Brilliant movies

since you seem to be rolling right through these recomendations i'll make one now...

To Rushmore... i recommend Sydney(aka Hard Eight)(1996)

And if lukeprog is still around(thought he was leaving)... I just noticed on your "seen" list... there is no Fistful Of Dollars(1964)... so i recommend it... specially since you have Good/Bad/Ugly tops of '66.

I have to agree with GC here, Fistful of Dollars is a great film, definately worth hunting down for Clint's cheroot's alone. Which funnily enough (here's some useless film trivia) were thin italian cigars which Clint cut into three sections so he could maintain continuity in scenes while smoking cigars. ie. so when cuts were made the length of the cigar wouldn't be noticable.

Good one GC.

T'ho

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Okay so here's how it's going on my end with regard to the recs. Girl In The Picture is in the mail (bought for 1 dollar from Ebay, yeah baby) as is Flying Guillotine (coming from Zip.ca). Sorry about the order getting mixed up but sometimes you've gotta take it as it comes. I'm tracking down Hail & Day Of Wrath and VHQ has hinted their getting Judex soon. And that's about it. How's things going on (place your name here)'s end?

T'ho

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p.s.: I'm inquiring as to whether anyone wants to take over the duties of this game as my life has turned into a hectic free-for-all?

I bought Hail The Conquering Hero for 3.69 on Ebay.

T'ho

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I Have a recommendation for Jim, Reality Bites (1994) its a very very good teen comedy directed by Ben Stiller (his second movie -directing-)

I've put it up there but I'm wondering whether Jim has seen it before?

T'ho

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Nope, haven't seen it.

Well...then you know what to do. :?)

Stook, I've posted my review of Ruby in Paradise.

A good short review that begs the question. But did you like it? :?)

An it looks like you need another rec, I think I'll leave that one up to the thundering (listology) herds, so to speak.

T'ho

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Not right away. I found the meandering pace too slow and Ruby too ordinary. I was also disappointed that her arc wasn't dramatic enough. However, I talked to some other people, after watching it, and they helped me to appreciate Ruby more. So much of her development is internal; it was hard for me to see it. I like her alot more now. She's hard not to like :).

I'd like to recommend THE QUIET MAN(1952) to Rosiecotten... if john wayne is a favorite actor of yours then you must see it.

great news... finally got my hands on a copy of One-eyed jacks... a friend of mine has it and he'll be up on christmas break... can't wait!

Oh and if you're serious about handing over the reigns on this little game i'd be happy to take over if no one more qualified comes along and you still want to hand it over... i may not have the vastness of recomendations you do so most of the recs will be up to other listologists, but i can definitly keep things running if need be.

Now that's lucky, obviously a cinema loving friend.

Sounds good, if you'd take over I'd be mighty appreciative, I simply don't have the time to keep it going anymore. We'll have to figure out how to make the change of course and thanks for offering yourself as "The Fellow In Charge." Keep me informed of what you want to do (I guess Jim could transfer the file over to you, but I'm not sure, Or you could start a new game and I'd just link over to yours. Whatever you want.) and I hope you enjoy running this game as much as I did.

T'ho

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i think either a file transfer(if possible) or just simply cloning it would be the easiest way.

Maybe cloning would be the easiest way to do the switch, less work for Jim considering he's busy with that secret santa distribution (I think Jim should post of picture of himself in a Santa suit). Take it away GC.

T'ho

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hope you don't mind if i clean it up a bit in the process