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  1. 9.5/10 Albums:

  2. Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica (1969)
  3. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom (1974)
  4. Faust - Faust (1971)

  5. 9.0/10 Albums:

  6. Velvet Underground and Nico - Velvet Underground & Nico (1967)
  7. The Doors - The Doors (1967)
  8. Popol Vuh - Hosianna Mantra (1973)
  9. Pere Ubu - Modern Dance (1978)
  10. Royal Trux - Twin Infinitives (1990)
  11. John Fahey - Fare Forward Voyagers (1973)
  12. Nico - Desert Shore (1971)
  13. Tim Buckley - Lorca (1970)
  14. Red Crayola - Parable Of Arable Land (1967)
  15. Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht (1972)
  16. Nick Cave - The Good Son (1990)
  17. Morphine - Good (1992)
  18. Lisa Germano - Geek The Girl (1994)
  19. Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde (1966)
  20. Neu - Neu! (1972)
  21. Foetus - Nail (1985)
  22. Suicide - Suicide (1977)
  23. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks (1968)
  24. Residents - Not Available (1978)
  25. Pop Group - Y (1979)
  26. Vampire Rodents - Lullaby Land (1993)
  27. Husker Du - Zen Arcade (1984)
  28. Third Ear Band - Third Ear Band (1970)
  29. Jon Hassell - Dream Theory In Malaya (1981)
  30. Red House Painters - Down Colorful Hill (1992)
  31. Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam (1991)
  32. Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime (1984)
  33. My Bloody Valentine - Loveless (1991)
  34. Bruce Springsteen - The River (1980)
  35. Captain Beefheart - Safe As Milk (1967)
  36. Butthole Surfers - Psychic Powerless (1985)
  37. Hash Jar Tempo - Well Oiled (1997)
  38. Slint - Spiderland (1991)
  39. Type O Negative - Slow Deep And Hard (1991)
  40. Velvet Underground - White Light White Heat (1967)
  41. Fugazi - Repeater (1990)
  42. Diamanda Galas - Diamanda Galas (1984)
  43. Meredith Monk - Songs From the Hills (1979)
  44. Meredith Monk - Dolmen Music (1981)

  45. 8.5/10 Albums:

  46. American Music Club - California (1988)
  47. Amon Tobin - Bricolage (1997)
  48. Babes In Toyland - Fontanelle (1992)
  49. Big Black - Atomizer (1986)
  50. Black Tape For A Blue Girl - Remnants Of A Deeper Purity (1996)
  51. Borbetomagus - Barbed Wire Maggots (1983)
  52. Built To Spill - Perfect From Now On (1997)
  53. Chrome - Half Machine Lip Moves (1979)
  54. Constance Demby - Novus Magnificat (1986)
  55. Cop Shoot Cop - Consumer Revolt (1990)
  56. Cramps - Songs The Lord Taught Us (1980)
  57. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables (1980)
  58. Dirty Three - Ocean Songs (1998)
  59. Dogbowl - Cyclops Nuclear Submarine Captain (1991)
  60. Dream Syndicate - The Days Of Wine And Roses (1982)
  61. Frank Zappa - Uncle Meat (1969)
  62. Gong - Flying Teapot: Radio Gnome Invisible (1973)
  63. Gun Club - Fire Of Love (1981)
  64. Jefferson Airplane - Volunteers (1969)
  65. Jim Steinman - Original Sin (1989)
  66. Jon Hassell - Vernal Equinox (1977)
  67. King Crimson - In The Court Of The Crimson King (1969)
  68. Klaus Schulze - Cyborg (1973)
  69. Leonard Cohen - Songs Of Leonard Cohen (1968)
  70. Lightwave - Mundus Subterraneus (1995)
  71. MC5 - Kick Out The Jams (1969)
  72. Nick Cave - From Her To Eternity (1984)
  73. Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral (1994)
  74. Peter Gabriel - Passion (1989)
  75. Phish - A Picture Of Nectar (1992)
  76. Pink Floyd - The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn (1967)
  77. Pixies - Surfer Rosa (1988)
  78. Popol Vuh - In Den Gaerten Pharaos (1972)
  79. Soft Boys - Underwater Moonlight (1980)
  80. Soft Machine - Third (1970)
  81. Steve Roach - Dreamtime Return (1988)
  82. Syd Barrett - Barrett (1970)
  83. Tim Buckley - Starsailor (1970)
  84. Tortoise - Millions Now Living Will Never Die (1996)
  85. Van Morrison - Moondance (1970)
  86. Von Lmo - Cosmic Interception (1994)
  87. Harold Budd - Pavilion of Dreams (1978)

  88. 8.0/10 Albums:

  89. Band - II (1969)
  90. Tim Buckley - Happy Sad (1968)
  91. Sandy Bull - Fantasia For Guitar & Banjo (1963)
  92. Colosseum - Valentyne Suite (1969)
  93. Holger Czukay - Canaxis 5 (1969)
  94. Deviants - Ptooff (1967)
  95. Doors - Strange Days (1967)
  96. Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited (1965)
  97. Family - Music In A Doll's House (1968)
  98. Grateful Dead - Anthem Of The Sun (1968)
  99. Grateful Dead - Live Dead (1969)
  100. Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced? (1967)
  101. Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland (1968)
  102. Holy Modal Rounders - Indian War Whoop (1967)
  103. Jefferson Airplane - After Bathing At Baxter's (1967)
  104. Kaleidoscope - Beacon From Mars (1968)
  105. Love - Da Capo (1967)
  106. Nico - Marble Index (1968)
  107. Pearls Before Swine - Balaklava (1968)
  108. David Peel - Have A Marijuana (1969)
  109. Pink Floyd - A Saucerful Of Secrets (1968)
  110. Stooges - self-titled (1969)
  111. United States Of America - self-titled (1968)
  112. Who - Tommy (1969)
  113. Neil Young - Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969)
  114. Frank Zappa - Freak Out (1966)
  115. Frank Zappa - Absolutely Free (1967)
  116. Frank Zappa - We're Only In It For The Money (1967)
  117. Amon Duul - Yeti (1970)
  118. Amon Duul - Tanz Der Lemminge (1971)
  119. Aphrodite's Child - 666 (1970)
  120. Kevin Ayers - Shooting At The Moon (1970)
  121. Robbie Basho - Venus In Cancer (1970)
  122. Robbie Basho - Song Of The Stallion (1971)
  123. Can - Tago Mago (1971)
  124. Can - Future Days (1973)
  125. Captain Beefheart - Mirror Man (1971)
  126. Clash - Clash (1977)
  127. Contortions - Buy Contortions (1979)
  128. Kevin Coyne - Marjory Razorblade (1973)
  129. David Crosby - If I Could Only Remember My Name (1971)
  130. Nick Drake - Pink Moon (1972)
  131. Brian Eno - Taking Tiger Mountain By Strategy (1974)
  132. Brian Eno - Before And After Science (1977)
  133. Brian Eno - Music For Airports (1978)
  134. John Fahey - America (1971)
  135. Faust - IV (1973)
  136. Germs - GI (1979)
  137. Peter Green - The End Of The Game (1970)
  138. Hampton Grease Band - Music To Eat (1971)
  139. Henry Cow - Unrest (1974)
  140. Henry Cow - In Praise Of Learning (1975)
  141. Michael Hoenig - Departure From The Northern Wasteland (1978)
  142. Rickie Lee Jones - Rickie Lee Jones (1979)
  143. Magma - Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh (1973)
  144. John Martyn - Inside Out (1973)
  145. Stephan Micus - Implosions (1977)
  146. Joni Mitchell - Blue (1971)
  147. Joni Mitchell - Hejira (1976)
  148. Mnemonist Orchestra - Mnemonist Orchestra (1979)
  149. Meredith Monk - The Key (1977)
  150. New York Dolls - New York Dolls (1973)
  151. Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells (1973)
  152. Penguin Cafè Orchestra - Music From The Penguin Cafè (1976)
  153. Pere Ubu - New Picnic Time (1979)
  154. Jean-Luc Ponty - King Kong (1970)
  155. Public Image Ltd - Second Edition (1979)
  156. Ramones - Rocket To Russia (1977)
  157. Residents - Meet The Residents (1974)
  158. Residents - Eskimo (1979)
  159. Rolling Stones - Exile On Main Street (1972)
  160. Roxy Music - Roxy Music (1972)
  161. Klaus Schulze - X (1978)
  162. Patti Smith - Radio Ethiopia (1976)
  163. Taj Mahal Travellers - July 15 1972 (1972)
  164. Talking Heads - 77 (1977)
  165. Tangerine Dream - Zeit (1972)
  166. Television - Marquee Moon (1977)
  167. This Heat - This Heat (1979)
  168. Throbbing Gristle - Second Annual Report (1977)
  169. Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts (1971)
  170. Velvet Underground - Live (1974)
  171. Wire - 154 (1979)
  172. Robert Wyatt - End Of An Ear (1970)
  173. Yes - Close To The Edge (1972)
  174. Neil Young - Tonight's The Night (1975)
  175. Frank Zappa - Weasels Ripped My Flesh (1970)
  176. Frank Zappa - Burnt Weeny Sandwich (1970)
  177. Warren Zevon - Warren Zevon (1976)
  178. Ambitious Lovers - Greed (1988)
  179. Angkor Wat - When Obscenity Becomes The Norm (1989)
  180. Bad Brains - Rock For Light (1982)
  181. Band Of Susans - Love Agenda (1989)
  182. Birdsongs Of The Mesozoic - Magnetic Flip (1984)
  183. Bitch Magnet - Umber (1989)
  184. Black Flag - Damaged (1981)
  185. Blind Idiot God - Blind Idiot God (1987)
  186. Bongwater - Double Bummer (1988)
  187. Butthole Surfers - Rembrandt Pussyhorse (1986)
  188. Camper Van Beethoven - Telephone Free Landslide Victory (1985)
  189. Camper Van Beethoven - Camper Van Beethoven (1986)
  190. Nick Cave - The Firstborn Is Dead (1985)
  191. Cocteau Twins - Head Over Heels (1983)
  192. Julian Cope - World Shut Your Mouth (1984)
  193. Cows - Daddy Has A Tail (1989)
  194. Dead Can Dance - Spleen And Ideal (1985)
  195. Death Of Samantha - Strungout On Jargon (1986)
  196. Deuter - Silence Is The Answer (1981)
  197. Diamanda Galas - Litanies of Satan / Wild Women (1982)
  198. Dinosaur Jr - You're Living All Over Me (1987)
  199. Djam Karet - Reflections From The Firepool (1988)
  200. Einsturzende Neubauten - Zeichnungen das Patienten OT (1983)
  201. Enya - Watermark (1988)
  202. Faith No More - Introduce Yourself (1987)
  203. Forrest Fang - The Wolf At The Ruins (1989)
  204. Fear - Record (1982)
  205. Feedtime - Feedtime (1986)
  206. Feelies - Crazy Rhythms (1980)
  207. Fetchin Bones - Cabin Flounder (1985)
  208. Flaming Lips - Telepathic Surgery (1989)
  209. Fleshtones - Roman Gods (1981)
  210. Flipper - Generic (1982)
  211. Foetus - Hole (1984)
  212. Glenn Branca - Ascension (1981)
  213. Peter Frohmader - Through Time And Mistery (1988)
  214. Galaxie 500 - On Fire (1989)
  215. Godflesh - Streetcleaner (1989)
  216. Green - White Soul (1989)
  217. Guns N' Roses - Appetite For Destruction (1987)
  218. Peter Michael Hamel - Colours Of Time (1980)
  219. Peter Michael Hamel - Transition (1983)
  220. Jon Hassell - Aka-Dabari-Java Magic Realism (1983)
  221. Hugo Largo - Drum (1987)
  222. Husker Du - New Day Rising (1985)
  223. Michael Jones - After The Rain (1988)
  224. King Snake Roost - Things That Play Themselves (1988)
  225. Meredith Monk - Turtle Dreams (1983)
  226. Laughing Hyenas - You Can't Pray A Lie (1989)
  227. Legal Weapon - Death Of Innocence (1982)
  228. Metallica - Kill 'Em All (1983)
  229. Metallica - Master Of Puppets (1986)
  230. Stephan Micus - Ocean (1986)
  231. Ministry - The Land Of Rape And Honey (1988)
  232. Misfits - Walk Among Us (1982)
  233. Missing Foundation - 1933 (1988)
  234. Mission Of Burma - VS (1982)
  235. My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything (1988)
  236. Colin Newman - A-Z (1980)
  237. Sinead O'Connor - The Lion And The Cobra (1987)
  238. Mary Margaret O'Hara - Miss America (1988)
  239. Pere Ubu - Art Of Walking (1980)
  240. Pop Group - For How Much Longer Do We Tolerate Mass Murder (1980)
  241. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back (1988)
  242. Public Image Ltd - Flowers of Romance (1981)
  243. Rapeman - Two Nuns And A Pack Mule (1989)
  244. Red Temple Spirits - Dancing To Restore An Eclipsed Moon (1988)
  245. Lou Reed - New York (1989)
  246. Replacements - Let It Be (1984)
  247. Replacements - Tim (1985)
  248. Stan Ridgeway - Big Heat (1986)
  249. Rip Rig & Panic - God (1981)
  250. Steve Roach - Structures From Silence (1984)
  251. Henry Rollins - Hot Animal Machine (1987)
  252. Savage Republic - Customs (1989)
  253. Jane Siberry - No Borders Here (1983)
  254. Sonic Youth - Bad Moon Rising (1985)
  255. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation (1988)
  256. Mark Stewart - Learning To Cope With Cowardice (1983)
  257. Swans - Filth (1983)
  258. Swans - Cop (1984)
  259. Swans - Children Of God (1987)
  260. Tackhead - Friendly As A Hand Grenade (1989)
  261. Talk Talk - Spirit Of Eden (1988)
  262. David Thomas - The Sound Of The Sand (1982)
  263. David Thomas - Monster Walks The Winter Lake (1986)
  264. Richard Thompson - Shoot Out The Lights (1982)
  265. Tiny Lights - Prayer For The Halcyon Fear (1985)
  266. Tragic Mulatto - Locos Por El Sexo (1987)
  267. Tuxedomoon - Half Mute (1980)
  268. Univers Zero - Heatwave (1986)
  269. Unrest - Tink Of Southeast (1987)
  270. Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes (1982)
  271. Tom Waits - Swordfishtrombones (1983)
  272. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs (1985)
  273. UT - Conviction (1986)
  274. X - LA (1980)
  275. Add N To X - On the Wires of Our Nerves (1998)
  276. Air Liquide - The Increased Difficulty Of Concentration (1995)
  277. Ant-Bee - Pure Electric Honey (1990)
  278. Atari Teenage Riot - Delete Yourself (1995)
  279. Aurora - Dimension Gate (1994)
  280. Autechre - Incunabula (1993)
  281. Autechre - Chiastic Side (1997)
  282. Bardo Pond - Bufo Alvarius (1995)
  283. Barkmarket - Vegas Throat (1991)
  284. Bark Psychosis - Hex (1994)
  285. Black Heart Procession - 2 (1999)
  286. Bugskull - Phantasies And Senseitions (1994)
  287. Calexico - The Black Light (1998)
  288. Church - Magician Among The Spirits (1996)
  289. Codeine - Frigid Stars (1991)
  290. Cul De Sac - China Gate (1996)
  291. Dadamah - This Is Not A Dream (1992)
  292. Dead C - Harsh '70s Reality (1992)
  293. Doldrums - Acupuncture (1997)
  294. Don Caballero - 2 (1995)
  295. Dream Theater - Images And Words (1992)
  296. Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime (1994)
  297. Heather Duby - Post To Wire (1999)
  298. Earth - 2 (1993)
  299. Eden - Gateway To The Mystery (1990)
  300. Ed Hall - Love Poke Here (1990)
  301. Eels - Electro-Shock Blues (1998)
  302. Electric Wizard - Come My Fanatics (1997)
  303. Fear Factory - Demanufacture (1995)
  304. Dave Fischoff - Winston Park (1998)
  305. Flying Luttenbachers - Gods Of Chaos (1998)
  306. Edith Frost - Telescopic (1998)
  307. Fugazi - Red Medicine (1995)
  308. Gallon Drunk - You The Night And The Music (1992)
  309. Gastr Del Sol - The Serpentine Similar (1993)
  310. Lisa Germano - On The Way Down From Moon Palace (1991)
  311. Lisa Germano - Excerpts From A Love Circus (1996)
  312. Ghost - Lama Rabi Rabi (1996)
  313. Girls Vs Boys - Venus Luxure No.1 Baby (1993)
  314. Gravitar - Gravitar (1995)
  315. Grifters - So Happy Together (1992)
  316. David Grubbs - The Thicket (1998)
  317. Hash Jar Tempo - Under Glass (1999)
  318. Paul Haslinger - World Without Rules (1996)
  319. Juliana Hatfield - Hey Babe (1992)
  320. Robin Holcomb - Robin Holcomb (1990)
  321. Honeymoon Killers - Hung Far Low (1991)
  322. Lida Husik - Bozo (1991)
  323. Lida Husik - The Return Of Red Emma (1993)
  324. Jarboe - Thirteen Masks (1992)
  325. Peter Jefferies - Substatic (1998)
  326. Jesus Lizard - Goat (1991)
  327. June Of 44 - Four Great Points (1998)
  328. Mark Kramer - The Guilt Trip (1993)
  329. Kyuss - Blues For The Red Sun (1992)
  330. Labradford - Labradford (1996)
  331. Laika - Sounds Of The Satellites (1997)
  332. Lambchop - I Hope You're Sitting Down (1994)
  333. Mark Lanegan - Whiskey For The Holy Ghost (1993)
  334. Lightwave - Tycho Brahe (1993)
  335. Low - I Could Live In Hope (1994)
  336. Lullaby For The Working Class - Blanket Warm (1996)
  337. Lycia - A Day In The Stark Corner (1993)
  338. Lycia - The Burning Circle And Then Dust (1995)
  339. Magnetic Fields - The Charm Of The Highway Strip (1994)
  340. Mainliner - Mellow Out (1996)
  341. Mercury Rev - Boces (1993)
  342. Mo Boma - Myths Of The Near Future (1994)
  343. Roy Montgomery - And Now The Rain Sounds Like Life Is Falling Down Through It (1998)
  344. Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill (1995)
  345. Morphine - Yes (1995)
  346. Motherhead Bug - Zambodia (1993)
  347. Nation Of Ulysses - Plays Pretty For Baby (1992)
  348. Neurosis - Through Silver In Blood (1996)
  349. Kenneth Newby - Ecology Of Souls (1993)
  350. Orb - U.F. Orb (1992)
  351. Orbital - II / Brown Album (1993)
  352. Ozric Tentacles - Erpland (1990)
  353. Pain Teens - Destroy Me Lover (1993)
  354. Dave Pajo - Live From A Shark Cage (1999)
  355. Pegboy - Strong Reaction (1991)
  356. Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville (1993)
  357. Phish - A Live One (1995)
  358. Phish - Lawn Boy (1990)
  359. Polvo - Exploded Drawing (1996)
  360. Portishead - Dummy (1994)
  361. Pram - Helium (1994)
  362. Primus - Frizzle Fry (1990)
  363. Rake - The Art Ensemble Of Rake (1995)
  364. Red House Painters - Red House Painters / Rollercoaster (1993)
  365. Red Red Meat - There's A Star Above The Manger Tonight (1997)
  366. Steve Roach - World's Edge (1992).
  367. Steve Roach - The Magnificent Void (1996)
  368. Swans - Soundtracks for the Blind (1996)
  369. Rocket From The Crypt - Circa Now (1993)
  370. Rodan - Rusty (1994)
  371. Henry Rollins - End Of Silence (1992)
  372. Run On - Start Packing (1996)
  373. Paul Schutze - New Maps Of Hell (1992)
  374. Scorn - Vae Solis (1992)
  375. Seam - The Problem With Me (1993)
  376. Sepultura - Roots (1996)
  377. Shadowy Men On A Shadowy Planet - Dim The Lights Chill The Ham (1992)
  378. Shellac - At Action Park (1994)
  379. Jane Siberry - When I Was A Boy (1993)
  380. Six Finger Satellite - The Pigeon Is The Most Popular Bird (1993)
  381. Sky Cries Mary - This Timeless Turning (1994)
  382. Slowdive - Just For A Day (1991)
  383. Smog - Julius Caesar (1993)
  384. Soul Coughing - Ruby Vroom (1994)
  385. Space Streakings - 7-Toku (1994)
  386. Stereolab - Transient Random Noise Bursts With Announcements (1993)
  387. Subarachnoid Space - Almost Invisible (1997)
  388. Sugarsmack - Top Loader (1993)
  389. Supreme Dicks - The Emotional Plague (1996)
  390. Techno Animal - Ghosts (1990)
  391. Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 - Mother Of All Saints (1992)
  392. Today Is The Day - Willpower (1994)
  393. Today Is The Day - Temple Of The Morning Star (1997)
  394. Tortoise - TNT (1998)
  395. Trance Mission - Trance Mission (1993)
  396. Unrest - Imperial f.f.r.r. (1992)
  397. Unsane - Unsane (1991)
  398. Unwound - Fake Train (1993)
  399. Vampire Rodents - Premonition (1992)
  400. Vampire Rodents - Clockseed (1995)
  401. Vas Deferens Organization - Transcontinental Conspiracy (1996)
  402. Windy & Carl - Drawing Of Sound (1996)
  403. Yo La Tengo - May I Sing With Me (1992)
  404. Yume Bitsu - Yume Bitsu (1999)
  405. Dirty 3 - Whatever You Love You Are (2000)
  406. Roy Montgomery - The Allegory of Hearing (2000)
  407. Lofty Pillars - Amsterdam (Truckstop)
  408. Solex - Low Kick And Hard Bop (2001)
  409. Spring Heel Jack - Disappeared (2000)
  410. Toby Dammit - Top Dollar (2001)
  411. Shit and Shine - Ladybird (2005)

  412. 7.5/10 Albums:

  413. Amon Duul - Phallus Dei (1969)
  414. Kevin Ayers - Joy Of A Toy (1969)
  415. Robbie Basho - The Grail And the Lotus (1966)
  416. Robbie Basho - Falconer's Arm (1967)
  417. Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band - Gorilla (1967)
  418. Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band - Doughnut In Granny's Greenhouse (1968)
  419. Tim Buckley - Goodbye And Hello (1967)
  420. Tim Buckley - Blue Afternoon (1969)
  421. Eric Burdon - Twain Shall Meet (1968)
  422. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Green River (1969)
  423. Deviants - Disposable (1968)
  424. Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left (1969)
  425. Family - Family Entertainment (1969)
  426. Grateful Dead - Aoxomoxoa (1969)
  427. Incredible String Band - Hangman's Beautiful Daughter (1968)
  428. Led Zeppelin - I (1969)
  429. Laura Nyro - Eli And The 13th Confession (1968)
  430. Pink Floyd - Ummagumma (1969)
  431. Rolling Stones - Between The Buttons (1967)
  432. Silver Apples - self-titled (1968)
  433. Spirit - The Family That Plays Together (1969)
  434. Third Ear Band - Alchemy (1969)
  435. 13th Floor Elevators - The Psychedelic Sounds Of (1966)
  436. Traffic - Mr Fantasy (1967)
  437. Townes Van Zandt - Our Mother The Mountain (1969)
  438. Allman Brothers Band - Live At Fillmore East (1971)
  439. Allman Brothers Band - Eat A Peach (1972)
  440. Area - Arbeit Macht Frei (1973)
  441. Back Door - Back Door (1972)
  442. Art Bears - Winter Songs (1979)
  443. Syd Barrett - Madcap Laughs (1970)
  444. David Bowie - Heroes (1977)
  445. Jackson Browne - Late For The Sky (1974)
  446. John Cale - Fear (1974)
  447. Cluster - Cluster II (1972)
  448. Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory (1970)
  449. Family - Fearless (1971)
  450. Mick Farren - Mona The Carnivorous Circus (1970)
  451. Roy Harper - Stormcock (1971)
  452. Hawkwind - Doremi Fasol Latido (1972)
  453. Heartbreakers - L.A.M.F. (1977)
  454. Michael Hurley - Have Moicy (1975)
  455. Jade Warrior - Waves (1975)
  456. Jean-Michel Jarre - Equinoxe (1978)
  457. Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures (1979)
  458. King Crimson - Red (1974)
  459. Leo Kottke - 6 & 12 String Guitar (1972)
  460. Kraftwerk - 2 (1971)
  461. LA Dusseldorf - LA Dusseldorf (1976)
  462. John Martyn - Solid Air (1973)
  463. Jasun Martz - The Pillory (1978)
  464. Matching Mole - Matching Mole (1972)
  465. Joni Mitchell - For The Roses (1972)
  466. Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Company - Portable Masterpiece Company (1973)
  467. Muffins - Manna/Mirage (1978)
  468. Neu - Neu! 2 (1973)
  469. Randy Newman - Twelve Songs (1970)
  470. Randy Newman - Good Old Boys (1974)
  471. Parliament - Funkentelechy Vs The Placebo Syndrome (1977)
  472. Pere Ubu - Dub Housing (1978)
  473. Tom Petty - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers (1976)
  474. Tom Petty - Damn The Torpedoes (1979)
  475. Red Crayola - Soldier Talk (1979)
  476. Todd Rundgren - Something/Anything (1972)
  477. Todd Rundgren - Todd (1974)
  478. Eberhard Schoener - Meditation (1973)
  479. Klaus Schulze - Timewind (1975)
  480. Soft Machine - 6 (1972)
  481. Bruce Springsteen - The Wild The Innocent And The E Street Shuffle (1973)
  482. Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material (1979)
  483. Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings And Food (1978)
  484. Talking Heads - Fear Of Music (1979)
  485. Tangerine Dream - Alpha Centauri (1971)
  486. Tangerine Dream - Atem (1973)
  487. Richard Thompson - I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight (1974)
  488. Richard Thompson - Pour Down Like Silver (1975)
  489. Ultravox - Ultravox (1977)
  490. Van Der Graaf Generator - H To He Who Am The Only One (1970)
  491. Vangelis - L'Apocalypse Des Animaux (1973)
  492. Vangelis - Heaven And Hell (1975)
  493. XTC - White Music (1978)
  494. Yes - Fragile (1971)
  495. Frank Zappa - Grand Wazoo (1973)
  496. Warren Zevon - Excitable Boy (1978)
  497. Afrika Bambaata - Beware (1986)
  498. American Music Club - Engine (1987)
  499. Virginia Astley - From Gardens Where We Feel Secure (1983)
  500. Bad Religion - Suffer (1988)
  501. Bad Religion - No Control (1989)
  502. Band Of Susans - Hope Against Hope (1988)
  503. Bel Canto - White-Out Conditions (1987)
  504. Birdsongs Of The Mesozoic - Faultline (1989)
  505. Blake Babies - Earwig (1989)
  506. Blind Idiot God - Undertow (1988)
  507. Camper Van Beethoven - II & III (1986)
  508. CCCP - Affinità - Divergenze (1985)
  509. Cocteau Twins - Treasure (1984)
  510. Julian Cope - Fried (1984)
  511. Creamers - Love Honor And Obey (1989)
  512. Death Of Samantha - Where The Women Wear The Glory And The Men Wear The Pants (1988)
  513. De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising (1989)
  514. Del-Lords - Johnny Comes Marching Home (1986)
  515. Constance Demby - Sacred Space Music (1982)
  516. Dogbowl - Tit (1989)
  517. Dream Syndicate - Medicine Show (1984)
  518. Eric B. & Rakim - Paid In Full (1987)
  519. Larry Fast - Metropolitan Suite (1985)
  520. Feelies - Good Earth (1986)
  521. Flaming Lips - Oh My Gawd (1987)
  522. Fred Frith - Speechless (1981)
  523. Peter Frohmader - Homunculus (1988)
  524. Fushitsusha - Live I (1989)
  525. God Bullies - Plastic Eye Miracle (1989)
  526. Godflesh - Godflesh (1988)
  527. Golden Palominos - Golden Palominos (1983)
  528. Gun Club - Miami (1982)
  529. Mickey Hart - Yamantaka (1982)
  530. Honeymoon Killers - Love American Style (1985)
  531. Jane's Addiction - Nothing's Shocking (1988)
  532. Peter Jefferies - At Swim Two Birds (1987)
  533. Jesus And Mary Chain - Psychocandy (1985)
  534. Rickie Lee Jones - Pirates (1981)
  535. Love And Rockets - Seventh Dream Of Teenage Heaven (1985)
  536. Meat Puppets - Up On The Sun (1985)
  537. Melvins - Ozma (1989)
  538. Metallica - Ride The Lightning (1984)
  539. Ministry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste (1989)
  540. My Dad Is Dead - The Taller You Are (1989)
  541. Naked Raygun - Jettison (1988)
  542. Nine Inch Nails - Pretty Hate Machine (1989)
  543. Original Sins - Hardest Way (1989)
  544. Annette Peacock - Sky-skating (1982)
  545. Annette Peacock - I Have No Feelings (1986)
  546. Pixies - Doolittle (1989)
  547. Pussy Galore - Right Now (1987)
  548. Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime (1988)
  549. R.E.M. - Murmur (1983)
  550. Rhythm And Noise - Contents Under Notice (1984)
  551. Rites of Spring - Rites Of Spring (1985)
  552. Henry Rollins - Life Time (1988)
  553. Royal Trux - Royal Trux (1988)
  554. Rudimentari Peni - Cacophony (1987)
  555. Eberhard Schoener - Sky Music - Mountain Music (1984)
  556. Klaus Schulze - Audentity (1983)
  557. Michael Shrieve - Big Picture (1989)
  558. Jane Siberry - The Walking (1987)
  559. Slayer - Reign In Blood (1986)
  560. Smithereens - Green Thoughts (1988)
  561. Sonic Youth - Confusion Is Sex (1983)
  562. Sonic Youth - Sister (1987)
  563. Squirrel Bait - Skag Heaven (1987)
  564. Swans - Holy Money (1986)
  565. They Might Be Giants - They Might Be Giants (1986)
  566. David Thomas - Variations On A Theme (1983)
  567. David Thomas - More Places Forever (1985)
  568. Throbbing Gristle - Heathen Earth (1980)
  569. Tragic Mulatto - Hot Man Pussy (1989)
  570. Unrest - Malcom X Park (1988)
  571. Voivod - Nothingface (1989)
  572. Chuck Vrtacek - Learning To Be Silent (1985)
  573. Waitresses - Wasn't Tomorrow Wonderful (1982)
  574. Tom Waits - Franks Wild Years (1987)
  575. XTC - Skylarking (1986)
  576. Young Fresh Fellows - The Men Who Loved Music (1987)
  577. Zoogz Rift - Nonentity (1988)
  578. Acid Mothers Temple & The Melting Paraiso U.F.O. - Pataphysical Freak Out Mu (1999)
  579. American Music Club - Everclear (1991)
  580. Azonic - Halo (1994)
  581. Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes (1991)
  582. Tori Amos - Under The Pink (1994)
  583. Aurora - The Land Of Harm And Appletrees (1993)
  584. Eric Bachmann - Barry Black (1995)
  585. Beck - Odelay (1996)
  586. Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister (1997)
  587. Bewitched - Brain Eater (1990)
  588. Bitch Magnet - Ben Hur (1990)
  589. Black Tape For A Blue Girl - A Chaos Of Desire (1991)
  590. Black Tape For A Blue Girl - As One Aflame Laid Bare By Desire (1998)
  591. Richard Bone - Eternal Now (1996)
  592. Brainiac - Bonsai Superstar (1994)
  593. Bran Van 3000 - Glee (1998)
  594. Brian Jonestown Massacre - Methodrone (1995)
  595. Lida Husik - Your Bag (1992)
  596. Breeders - Last Splash (1993)
  597. Calla - Calla (1999)
  598. Caspar Brötzmann - Koksofen (1993)
  599. Catherine Wheel - Ferment (1992)
  600. Cat Power - What Would The Community Think (1996)
  601. Cerberus Shoal - Homb (1999)
  602. Charalambides - Market Square (1995)
  603. Cobra Verde - Viva La Muerte (1994)
  604. Concussion Ensemble - Stampede (1993)
  605. Cop Shoot Cop - White Noise (1991)
  606. Cop Shoot Cop - Ask Questions Later (1993)
  607. Cradle Of Thorns - Feed Us (1994)
  608. Dazzling Killmen - Face Of Collapse (1994)
  609. Dead C - White House (1995)
  610. Delerium - Spiritual Archives (1991)
  611. Denison-Kimball Trio - Walls In The City (1994)
  612. Dirty Three - Dirty Three (1995)
  613. Dirty Three - Horse Stories (1996)
  614. Dissolve - Third Album For The Sun (1997)
  615. Distorted Pony - Punishment Room (1992)
  616. DJ Shadow - Endtroducing (1996)
  617. Don Caballero - For Respect (1993)
  618. Don Caballero - What Burns Never Returns (1998)
  619. Drain - Pick Up Heaven (1992)
  620. Ed Hall - Gloryhole (1991)
  621. Eels - Beautiful Freak (1996)
  622. Enigma - The Cross Of Changes (1994)
  623. Forrest Fang - Blind Messenger (1997)
  624. Firewater - The Ponzi Scheme (1998)
  625. Fishbone - Reality Of My Surroundings (1991)
  626. 5ive Style - Miniature Portraits (1999)
  627. Flop - Whenever You're Ready (1993)
  628. Flying Luttenbachers - Revenge (1996)
  629. Foetus - Gash (1995)
  630. John Frusciante - Niandra Lades And Usually Just A T-Shirt (1994)
  631. Fugazi - 13 Songs (1990)
  632. Fugazi - Steady Diet Of Nothing (1991)
  633. Furry Things - The Big Saturday Illusion (1995)
  634. Gate - Dew Line (1994)
  635. Geraldine Fibbers - Butch (1997)
  636. Lisa Germano - Happiness (1993)
  637. Lisa Germano - Slide (1998)
  638. Girls Vs Boys - Tropic Of Scorpio (1992)
  639. Godflesh - Pure (1992)
  640. GodHeadSilo - Skyward In Triumph (1996)
  641. God Machine - Scenes From The Second Storey (1993)
  642. Grant Lee Buffalo - Fuzzy (1993)
  643. Gravitar - Chinga Su Corazon (1993)
  644. Gravitar - Now The Road Of Knives (1997)
  645. Hammerbox - Numb (1993)
  646. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation Of (1998)
  647. His Name Is Alive - Mouth By Mouth (1993)
  648. Human Drama - Songs Of Betrayal (1995)
  649. Iceburn - Hephaestus (1993)
  650. Irresistible Force - Flying High (1992)
  651. Jarboe - Sacrificial Cake (1995)
  652. Peter Jefferies - The Last Great Challenge In A Dull World (1991)
  653. Jellyfish - Bellybutton (1990)
  654. Jesus Lizard - Head (1990)
  655. Jesus Lizard - Liar (1992)
  656. Johnboy - Pistol Swing (1993)
  657. Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Jon Spencer Blues Explosion (1992)
  658. Jon Spencer Blues Explosion - Orange (1994)
  659. Daniel Johnston - 1990 (1990)
  660. Freedy Johnston - Trouble Tree (1990)
  661. Korn - Korn (1994)
  662. Labradford - Prazision (1993)
  663. Laddio Bolocko - Strange Warmings (1997)
  664. Mark Lanegan - Winding Sheet (1990)
  665. Linus Pauling Quartet - Killing You With Rock (1998)
  666. Liquid Mind - Ambience Minimus (1994)
  667. Loop Guru - Duniya (1995)
  668. Low - Long Division (1995)
  669. L7 - Bricks Are Heavy (1992)
  670. Magnetic Fields - Holiday (1993)
  671. Main - Hz (1996)
  672. Maquiladora - Lost Works of Eunice Phelps (1998)
  673. Hannah Marcus - Faith Burns (1998)
  674. Mazinga Phaser - Cruising In The Neon Glories (1996)
  675. Mazzy Star - So Tonight That I Might See (1993)
  676. Loreena McKennitt - The Mask And The Mirror (1994)
  677. Medicine - Shot Forth Self Living (1992)
  678. Mentallo & The Fixer - Revelations 23 (1993)
  679. Mercury Rev - Deserter's Songs (1998)
  680. Mermen - A Glorious Lethal Euphoria (1995)
  681. Miss Murgatroid - Myoclyonic Melodies (1996)
  682. Moon Seven Times - Moon Seven Times (1993)
  683. Moonshake - Eva Luna (1992)
  684. Morphine - Cure For Pain (1993)
  685. Bob Mould - Black Sheets Of Rain (1990)
  686. Mouse On Mars - Iaora Tahiti (1995)
  687. Neil Young - Rust Never Sleeps (1979)
  688. Neurosis - Enemy Of The Sun (1993)
  689. Neutral Milk Hotel - In the Aeroplane Over The Sea (1998)
  690. New Bomb Turks - Destroy Oh Boy (1993)
  691. Vidna Obmana - The Spiritual Bonding (1994)
  692. Old Time Relijun - Utereus And Fire (1999)
  693. Orbital - In Sides (1996)
  694. Original Sins - Self Distruct (1990)
  695. Ozric Tentacles - Strangeitude (1991)
  696. Pain Teens - Stimulation Festival (1992)
  697. Pearl Jam - Vitalogy (1994)
  698. Pelt - Brown Cyclopedia (1995)
  699. Pelt - Ayahuasca (1999)
  700. Brendan Perry - Eye Of The Hunter (1999)
  701. Liz Phair - Whitechocolatespaceegg (1998)
  702. Polvo - Today's Active Lifestyles (1993)
  703. Primordial Undermind - Universe I've Got (1999)
  704. Rage Against The Machine - Rage Against The Machine (1992)
  705. Red Stars Theory - Life In A Bubble Can Be Beautiful (1999)
  706. Marc Ribot - Rootless Cosmopolitan (1990)
  707. Robert Rich - Fissures (1997)
  708. Steve Roach - Strata (1990)
  709. Steve Roach - Australia: Sound Of The Earth (1991)
  710. Steve Roach - Forgotten Gods (1993)
  711. Steve Roach - Well Of Souls (1995)
  712. Steve Roach - Dream Circle (1994)
  713. Run On - No Way (1997)
  714. Scarce - Deadsexy (1995)
  715. Scorn - Colossus (1994)
  716. Screeching Weasel - My Brain Hurts (1991)
  717. Shark Quest - Battle Of The Loons (1998)
  718. Shinjuku Thief - Bloody Tourist (1992)
  719. Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun (1999)
  720. Six Finger Satellite - Severe Exposure (1995)
  721. Sixteen Horsepower - Sackcloth & Ashes (1996)
  722. Six Organs of Admittance - Six Organs of Admittance (1998)
  723. Skylab - #1 (1995)
  724. Slovenly - Highway to Hanno's (1992)
  725. Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream (1993)
  726. Kendra Smith - Guild Of Temporal Adventurers (1992)
  727. Smog - Wild Love (1995)
  728. Azalia Snail - Snailbait (1990)
  729. Azalia Snail - Fumarole Rising (1994)
  730. Soma - Hollow Earth (1994)
  731. Soul Whirling Somewhere - Soul Whirling Somewhere (1996)
  732. Soundgarden - Superunknown (1994)
  733. Space Needle - Voyager (1996)
  734. Spongehead - Curb Your Dogma (1993)
  735. Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy (1997)
  736. Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet (1994)
  737. Steroid Maximus - Quilombo (1991)
  738. Storm & Stress - Storm & Stress (1997)
  739. Subarachnoid Space - Delicate Membrane (1996)
  740. Subarachnoid Space - Endless Renovation (1998)
  741. Sulfur - Delirium Tremens (1998)
  742. Swans - White Light From The Mouth Of Infinity (1991)
  743. Tarwater - 11/6 12/10 (1996)
  744. Terminals - Touch (1992)
  745. Thessalonians - Soulcraft (1993)
  746. Thomas Jefferson Slave Apartments - Straight To Video (1997)
  747. Tiny Lights - Milky Juicy (1994)
  748. Today Is The Day - Supernova (1993)
  749. Today Is The Day - Today is The Day (1996)
  750. Tortoise - Tortoise (1994)
  751. Tribes of Neurot - Static Migration (1998)
  752. Trumans Water - Spasm Smash (1993)
  753. Underground Lovers - Leaves Me Blind (1993)
  754. Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman (1994)
  755. Unsane - Total Destruction (1994)
  756. U.S. Maple - Long Hair In Three Stages (1995)
  757. Vampire Rodents - Gravity's Rim (1996)
  758. Vocokesh - Smile And Point At The Mountain (1995)
  759. Voice Of Eye - Vespers (1994)
  760. Ween - God Weed Satan: The Oneness (1990)
  761. Will - Pearl Of Great Price (1991)
  762. Willard Grant Conspiracy - Mojave (1999)
  763. Windsor For The Derby - Calm Hades Float (1996)
  764. Witch Hazel - Landlocked (1995)
  765. Yo La Tengo - I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One (1997)
  766. Yume Bitsu - Giant Surface Music Falling to Earth Like Jewels From The Sky (1998)
  767. Low - Trust (2002)
  768. Animal Collective - Spirit They're Gone Spirit They've Vanished (2000)
  769. Jessica Bailiff - Jessica Bailiff (2002)
  770. Steffen Basho-Junghans - Waters in Azure (2002)
  771. Black Dice - Beaches & Canyons (2002)
  772. Books - The Lemon of Pink (2003)
  773. Nile - In Their Darkened Shrines
  774. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein (2001)
  775. Cat Power - You Are Free (2003)
  776. Cerberus Shoal - Mr Boy Dog (2002)
  777. cLOUDDEAD - cLOUDDEAD (2001)
  778. Comets On Fire - Field Recordings From the Sun (2002)
  779. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP (2000)
  780. Entropic Advance - Red Yellow Noise (2002)
  781. Fiery Furnaces - Gallowsbird's Bark (2003)
  782. Ghost - Hypnotic Underworld (2004)
  783. Kopernik - Kopernik (2003)
  784. DJ Logic - Anomaly (2001)
  785. Maquiladora - Ritual Of The Hearts (2002)
  786. M83 - Dead Cities, Red Seas & Lost Ghosts (2003)
  787. Pan Sonic - Kesto (2004)
  788. Robert Rich - Somnium (2001)
  789. Supersilent - 6 (2003)
  790. Amon Tobin - Out From Out Where (2002)
  791. Scott Tuma - Hard Again (2001)
  792. Today is the Day - Sadness Will Prevail (2002)
  793. Vibracathedral Orchestra - Dabbling With Gravity (2002)
  794. Volebeats - Solitude (2000)
  795. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (2002)
  796. Carla Bozulich - Evangelista (2006)
  797. Orthrelm - OV (2005)
  798. Colleen - The Golden Morning Breaks (2005)
  799. Sufjan Stevens - Illinoise (2005)
  800. Liars - Drum's Not Dead (2006)
  801. Keith Fullerton Whitman - Lisbon (2006)
  802. Xiu Xiu - A Promise (2003)
  803. Tool - Lateralus (2001)
  804. Stars Of The Lid - The Tired Sounds Of (2001)
  805. Lydia Lunch - Smoke in the Shadows (2004)
  806. Charalambides - Joy Shapes (2004)
  807. TV on the Radio - Return to Cookie Mountain (2006)
  808. Liars - Drum's Not Dead (2006)
  809. Keith Fullerton Whitman - Lisbon (2006)
  810. Shit and Shine - Jealous of Shit and Shine (2006)
  811. Carla Bozulich - Evangelista (2006)
  812. Panda Bear - Person Pitch (2007)
  813. The Battles - Mirrored (2007)

Wow, you've heard almost all of them! How would you rate Fare Forward Voyagers by Fahey, on a strictly personal value scale.

I'm really not much into folk rock. I keep trying, but even Dylan can't get me really excited about the stuff.

So I guess that means you're not too into it then.

Have you really not heard Bob Dylan - Highway 61 Revisited (1965)?

Only a few tracks. I'll get to it eventually. First, though, I gotta rip this 14-CD set of Wagner's Ring Cycle from the library. :-)

I can definitely send you the Dylan if you like. It's a brilliant album.

Sure! And I just finished ripping the Ring Cycle a few minutes ago (no joke). :-)

You'll live to regret that... but I can't believe that you'll listen to it all.

Coming down with a nasty cold gave me opportunity to lie in bed and listen to all four operas, start to finish. And I do regret it. First, because the Ring Cycle may be the least relaxing music ever composed. Second, because listening to them all when I felt miserable may have conditioned a sickening response in me to Wagner, like Pavlov's dog.

Siegfried was cool, though... for an opera.

I ask because I thought it was usually one of the first albums of classic rock that people listened to, along with pet sounds and sgt pepper and dsotm - i.e., the regular crowd. I don't really care much for Dylan, besides Blonde on Blonde.

I hesitate to ask what your take on Foetus and Cop Shoot Cop is... :-)

I actually do like Foetus, Cop Shoot Cop, Big Black, and Nine Inch Nails vrey much. Their best albums are extreme in the best sense of the word and fully realized.

Underwater Moonlight and The River and probably the "worst" albums I've heard on this list (which is an extreme compliment to this list), and I still am not sure what to think of Twin Infinitives. I'm kind of ignoring it in favor of listening to Foetus. :-)

Anyone else feel like tackling this list? Seriously, nearly all these albums are incredible.

I must admit, given what I know of Scaruffi's critical aesthetics, I am skeptical. Feel free to try to convince me otherwise, but I feel like while many of these more obscure albums might have sounded groundbreaking if I had listened to them when they were originally released, today they would not be the most enjoyable albums to listen to.

And then there's Phish. I mean, seriously, Phish? Wait, Phish? No no no, hang on a second - PHISH?!

I do love a good number of albums on the list, though, so perhaps I'm characterizing Scaruffi's taste unfairly. I'll tell ya what I'll do, assuming you'll help. Pick somewhere between five and ten albums on this list that you really think I'll love, based on what you can extrapolate from my taste. I'll try to pick them up, and if they're as incredible as you say, perhaps I'll continue with more of the list.

Here's a small sample of my taste as it specifically relates to this list:

One of my all time favorites: Blonde on Blonde
I love or really really like: The River, Trout Mask Replica, Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables, Loveless, Surfer Rosa, Moondance, VU + Nico
I like quite a bit but find slightly uneven: In the Court of the Crimson King, Double Nickels on the Dime (though I love the sheer ambition of this album), Rock Bottom
I respect but could never really connect with: The Doors, Astral Weeks, White Light/White Heat
I dislike: Piper at the Gates of Dawn

By the way, feel free to recommend the albums that I know have gotten a good amount of acclaim from other critics (Zen Arcade, Songs of Leonard Cohen, Kick Out the Jams, Downward Spiral, Modern Dance, Suicide), but I will probably be more impressed if Scaruffi scores big with the unsung gems.

P.S. If it helps, perhaps I should also mention that I love American Music Club's Everclear, Built to Spill's There Is Nothing Wrong With Love, other albums by Frank Zappa, and Mercury Rev's Deserter's Songs. Plus Peter Gabriel's So and Jefferson Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow are pretty good too. And I'm sure this says nothing about my musical taste, but I really like the album title "Parable of Arable Land" as well as the band name "Red Crayola."

I'm surprised by and appreciate your willingness to give it ago, despite the great differences in your and Scaruffi's tastes. I'd start with:

1. Zen Arcade
2. Safe As Milk
3. Songs The Lord Taught Us
4. Songs of Leonard Cohen
5. Cyclops Nuclear Submarine Captain
6. Fire of Love
7. The Downward Spiral

And, if you like any drum 'n bass albums: definitely Bricolage.

Alright, I realized I still had an exorbitant amount of Barnes and Noble gift certificates from the holiday season, so I ordered #2, #3, and #4 from bn.com. And I also ordered Happy Sad and A Tribute to Jack Johnson, so when I get them it will be a very lukeprog-recommended day.

By the way, if there are any really atonal noise symphonies you'd like me to hear but wouldn't recommend I spend money on, feel free to send them to me through e-mail and I'll at least give them a listen.

Sweet. I'm flattered and nervous.

I sent you Harmonielehre a while back and I don't recall you liking it much, even though it is both Romantic and tonal. Do you really want to try an atonal symphony? And, any reason you're specifically interested in hearing a symphony, instead of other types of modern pieces?

Have you heard Stravinsky's Rite of Spring?

I actually really liked Harmonielehre, though I'm not sure if I told you whether I did one way or the other.

I didn't really mean a symphony in the literal sense of the word. I just looked up a bunch of the albums on this list, listened to clips from a few, and some of them seemed to follow the same format of comprising (1) a small number of songs that are all at least five minutes long with (2) few words, and they (3) mainly contain weird, atonal experimentations with noise. Granted, I might like a few such albums if I listened to them enough and they grew on me, but I think it would be hard to predict which ones would actually grow on me and which wouldn't. If there are any albums like this you'd just like me to hear, whether you think I'd like them or not, feel free to send them. I'll be pretty busy once I get back to school (I'm home now for spring break), so I can't promise to give them my non-stop, undivided attention, but I'll give them a chance.

If there are a couple really famous sections of Rite of Spring, those would probably sound familiar to me, but I've never heard the whole thing. You now know I didn't really mean an honest-to-God symphony, but I'm still interested. I could probably find Rite of Spring on the network once I get back to Penn.

Rite of Spring was used for the dinosaurs 'n lava segment of Fantasia. I asked because it's rhythmic and tonality innovations foreshadowed most of 20th century music, even if it sounds nothing like most 20th century music after, say, 1950.

Long tracks with few or no words that contain shifting soundscapes, noisy sound experiments, and genre fusion are generally called "suites." For example, most albums by Tangerine Dream and Klaus Schulze are suites. Kind of like a 20-minute jazz "jam", but in the rock or avant-garde genres, you might say.

What might also come into play is the "collage" style of song construction, used extensively by The Residents in their earlier albums, and on Faust's debut.

Anyway, I'll do some thinking. I'm glad you're interested.

Ya know, when you get right down to it, I'm not sure I've ever actually sat down and watched Fantasia all the way through. I feel like I've seen the Sorceror's Apprentice segment a hundred times, though.

But yeah, if you wanna send me any music, that'd be pretty suite.

I'll eventually make my way all the way through it, but I'm in a money slump right now, so don't wait up for me.

The ones I've heard are absolutely stunning though, and I especially can't wait to get ahold of the following:

Parable of the Arable Land, Desert Shore, Starsailor (runs around $90-$250 at amazon), & Lorca.

I've recently heard pieces of Faust and Desert Shore and all I can say is holy @#$!.

I think what you're saying is that what you heard of Faust and Desert Shore were great, and I'm thrilled to hear it. You can find albums cheaper through Amazon's marketplace (it's always worked GREAT for me) and allofmp3.com.

thanks for the tip. I purchased DesertShore today, have listened to it in full two times and so far think it is amazing.

Sadly Faust was sold out (all of their albums), and so was the Red Crayola one, so I grabbed Lorca instead and was impressed, though it hasn't quite grabbed me yet.

What do you think of Starsailor as compared to Lorca? Do you find it better or worse from a personal value perspective?

I prefer Starsailor.

Amazon Marketplace is where Starsailor goes for 100 bucks. At half.com it's a steal for 79 bucks. :-)

thanks!

I'm definitely not in a position to by it now, but if it's still available on down the line I will consider it, though it is definitely hard to imagine paying that much for one album so it better be really effing good, like Astral Weeks good, or at least very close.

No, don't spend that much on one album! Won't be long before it's available for a decent price, somewhere.

AfterHours, send me an email, would ya?

If you're after Legal Weapon - Death Of Innocence (1982), it's up on ebay for a mere $100

I've wanted The Well Tuned Piano for ages, but so far the cheapest copy I can find is $500.

I guess I'll work on this list. It'll take me a good long time. While I'm not real enchanted with Piero, all of these seem worth getting; though I would like to echo AJ: Phish?

I've heard all of 3 Phish songs, and I understand they're a varied group. Why is it so hard to believe Piero thinks highly of the Phish album?

It's not hard to believe that he thinks highly of them, it's just that I don't.

They have a very dedicated following.

Well, to be fair, I haven't heard that album or many songs by Phish. But from what I understand, Phish is a silly, carefree, mainstream neo-Grateful-Dead jam band, and they have a popular following of college students who like to come to their concerts and get stoned off their asses. The All Music Guide has a section on Themes of a particular album. It lists the only themes of A Picture of Nectar as "The Creative Side" and "Hanging Out." I may be crazy, but I find it tough to picture Piero Scaruffi enjoying an album that has a major theme of "Hanging Out," and it is also tough to reconcile Scaruffi with my perception of Phish's fan base.

I mean, I could enjoy the album immensely for all I know. I just have a hard time believing Scaruffi thinks it's one of the 78 best rock albums of all-time, just as I would have a hard time picturing Scaruffi rocking out to Dave Matthews Band. But to be fair, Scaruffi didn't give any rating above a 6.5/10 to anything Phish did after 1995, so maybe he feels they sold out at some point.

FYI, I really enjoy A Picture of Nectar, but it is quite unlike any other album on this list.

I've been checking out Scaruffi's site for a couple of years, so it's interesting to see what other people have to say about it.
So far, I've heard 205 of his 8/10+ albums. The guy has pretty good taste in music, and has pointed me to a lot of great albums. I haven't heard all of the 9/10 albums yet, and feel like purchasing one, so I was wondering what you'd recommend of the following:
Lullaby Land, Third Ear Band, Well-Oiled, or Psyhic Powerless

I love Third Ear Band and Well Oiled. Psychic Powerless is very good but not as much "my style." I'm having a hard time getting into Lullaby Land.

If you've heard it: can you comprehend why Scaruffi loves Down Colorful Hill so much?

Ah, I now see you love it as well. Care to explain your own affection?

I'm sort of a sucker for depressing music (Leonard Cohen, Nick Drake, etc), and this is one of the more emotionally draining albums I've heard. I think the singer/songwriter, Mark Kozelek, has a great ability to convey his feelings through his singing style and lyrics, even if he gets pretty mopey. And the songs are constructed in interesting ways, usually in multiple sections. Plus the album flows together well, as a whole.

Thanks. I'll try to track down "Third Ear Band" and "Well-Oiled." From the samples I heard, "Psychic Powerless" isn't really my style too (same with "Twin Infinitives").
As for "Down Colorful Hill," I'm guessing Scaruffi loves it because it's emotionally intense and has lengthy songs, although it's not as experimental as his other 9/10 albums from the 90s. I agree with him, though. Good album.

I tackled most of his lists years ago. There are seven from this one that I haven't heard:

Angkor Wat - When Obscenity Becomes The Norm (1989)
Forrest Fang - The Wolf At The Ruins (1989)
Peter Frohmader - Through Time And Mistery (1988)
Michael Jones - After The Rain (1988)
Stephan Micus - Ocean (1986)
Ant-Bee - Pure Electric Honey (1990)
Dave Fischoff - Winston Park (1998)

Lukeprog, almost every time I google search for "Scaruffi + some band" I end up at listology looking at your lists!
Have you corresponded with him? I'm sure he's aware of you by now.

Whoops. Make that 10 I haven't heard:

# Peter Michael Hamel - Colours Of Time (1980)
# Peter Michael Hamel - Transition (1983)
# Jon Hassell - Aka-Dabari-Java Magic Realism (1983)

I haven't heard any Peter Michael Hamel. I'll have to track down some of these.

A lot of the new age and jazz albums that he lists are very difficult to find. Some I've never seen on sale at all.

BTW, how long did it take you to collect so many (mostly obscure) albums? And how on earth did you find/afford them all?

And, how do you like the Taj Mahal Travellers album?

I was delving pretty deeply into music for many years. I know most of the classics, as well as lots of the lost/forgotten/overlooked albums.

Which ones in particular are you having trouble finding?

Ebay and gemm.com are useful sites.

The taj mahal travellers albums are the trippiest music I've ever heard. The closest reference point would be Can's Aumgn, from tago mago. If you like Well Oiled you should like them. Parson Sound are similar as well, if you know them.

Really, my limits are time and money, not availability. Sounds like I'd really like Taj Mahal Travellers.

I know that those Robbie Basho albums aren't on CD. There's a recent compilation which includes about half of Song of the Stallion, if i remember correctly.

Wow, you've got a lot of great music! Which are your favorite albums (not just from Scaruffi's list)?

Oh yes, I've corresonded with Scaruffi several times.

Trout Mask Replica was my favourite for a long time. These days I'm not sure what my favourites are. The Conan soundtrack by Basil Poledouris is one I overlooked for a long time, but which I now think is some sort of a masterpiece. It's probably top 20 material.

Leif Inge - 9 Beet Stretch, which I think appears on one of your lists, is another.

My tastes don't make much sense to me anymore.

Very interesting. 9 Beet Stretch is a fun experiment, and Poledouris' work on Hunt for Red October was memorable, though I haven't seen Conan. I'll have to track that down. I'd love to hear additional "favorites". Do you like much jazz or contemporary classical? Anyway, if you'd like to chat or swap music, email me at lukeprog [at] gmail.com

My love of the conan soundtrack is completely separate from my opinion of the movie, by the way. I'm not sure whether seeing the movie enhances the music or not.

A few other favourites: escalator over the hill, third, modern dance, fun house, remnants of a deeper purity, remain in light, songs of leonard cohen, the velvet underground's first two, red crayola's first one, demanufacture, children of god, rain dogs, and hundreds of others. My tastes could appear completely different if I mentioned a different batch of them :o)

The best album I can think of that isn't mentioned at all on Scaruffi's site is Au Pairs - Playing with a Different Sex (1981). Another is Heart of the Congos (1977). I'm hesitant to email him anymore because I know how busy he is.

Have you got a list of all the 7/10 and 7.5/10s on his site, so you can check them off? That might be a stronger list than the one above.

Cool.

I'm starting at the top, working my way down. It'll be years before I've put a significant dent in this list and start finding the 7s I don't already have.

So, do you like much jazz or contemporary classical music?

Contemporary classical is my main interest at the moment, because I have so much to learn. I don't really know where to begin. Any suggestions?

My knowledge of jazz doesn't extend far beyond '60s free jazz.

Lol, same story with me and jazz. But I have spent a solid year exploring contemporary classical and have a pretty good idea of what's out there, even if there are hundreds of important artists I've yet to hear. Though still a great resource, Scaruffi's History of Avantgarde Music isn't 1/5th as good or complete as his history of rock. My favorites, off the top of my head:

Near the pop/rock/jazz edge of things: Bang on a Can, a sort of touring festival of rockish/jazzy compositions by Michael Gordon, Julia Wolfe, David Lang, Phil Kline, and many others. Also, David Rosenbloom and Tim Berne. Kronos Quartet is the most famous performance ensemble and play a great variety of great music.

For complex, emotional music, you can't ask for better than Arvo Part, Alfred Schnittke, and late Shostakovich. For simple, emotional music, the minimalists have got you covered: Philip Glass, John Adams, Steve Reich, and Terry Riley.

John Rutter is the foremost writer of vocal music today. Osvaldo Golusijov writes with a Jewish Latin American flavor. Stockhausen is the dominant voice of electronic music. Gorecki's Symphony No. 3 is the best-selling piece of contemporary classical music ever and is also very good. Glenn Branca is the master of electric guitar and "acoustic effects."

Depending on how far you want to go back, Messiaen and Bartok composed the great music of the 40s.

There is so much more I could write, especially about the less accessible artists, but I'll start with this.

Introductory discography:

John Adams - Harmonielehre
Arvo Part - Tabula Rasa
Bang on a Can - Classics
Kronos Quartet - Plays Philip Glass
Steve Reich - Desert Music
Henryck Gorecki - Symphony No. 3
Glenn Branca - Symphony No. 3

Thanks. I feel a bit stupid for not listening to a lot of this stuff earlier. I know the famous minimalists, but little beyond that. I'll definitely check out some of your recommendations. Harmonielehre is now at the top of my wishlist...

In addition to Scaruffi's lists, this may prove useful. Kalvos & Damian's site is endlessly useful, and they also list their favorites. A few more notes, understanding I still haven't put a dent in what I've heard or, certainly, what's out there:

I haven't heard much Stockhausen, but for electronica I'd try Riley's Rainbow in Curved Air (melodic) and Subotnick's Silver Apples of the Moon (chaotic).

As for Schnittke, no harm starting with Symphony No. 1. Rzewski's The People United Will Never Be Defeated are the most remarkable piano variations you'll ever hear. Glass' Einstein on the Beach is a breathless new take on "opera". Lutoslawski's Symphony No. 3 is eye-opening. Penderecki's Threnody is a landmark texture piece. Rihm's Jagden Und Formen is a rhythmic encyclopedia. I really like Borboudakis' spaced-out Chorochronos.

Going back to non-60s jazz, I really like post-Disappeared Spring Heel Jack (and pre-Disappeared, I'm just not sure it's jazz.)

Who can say what genre he falls into, but you've heard Moondog, right?

Thanks for the links. I've bookmarked both.

I've heard a lot of stockhausen, riley, subotnick, glass, penderecki and co. Haven't heard Rzewski, Rihm or Borboudakis and hundreds of others. (I really need a pronunciation guide for some of these names :o) ) It'll take me a few years to even get a grasp of contemporary classical and electronic music. But any stepping stones are useful :-)

My main interest at the moment is film history, so I can't let my "to-hear" lists get too long or I'll be overwhelmed by it all.

I know Moondog, but have no idea what genre he would slot into. Most of the greats deserve their own genre. If they are original enough, that's all one can do.

Yes, I've been looking for both the Au Pairs and the Congos album, though I can't remember where I read about them.

Which would you say are the albums Scaruffi most badly overvalues? I'm tempted to say The River, Jagged Little Pill, and I refuse to have an opinion on Twin Infinitives. :-)

overvalues -- Volunteers (which used to be a 9/10), Underwater moonlight, the American Music Club album, Aoxomoxoa, Shooting at the moon, For How Much Longer ..., Art of Walking, some Lida Husik albums, and a few others. None are bad albums, of course.

I don't think he's consistent with the 7s vs 8s.

I've listened to the River more times than almost anything else and love it to bits.
Jagged Little Pill was too popular for its own good.

Another few that I don't rate nearly as high as him are the two John Fahey albums that have been in his top 10 (fare forward and america)

His top albums lists have changed quite a bit over the years. The one I originally used as a guide didn't include any of the new age albums, and isn't on the site anymore.

The .5s were added in 2003 along to coincide with the book. His earlier books (printed in Italian, and now out of print) don't have ratings at all.

But as far as his recommendations go, I've never found another music critic whose opinion I'd trust more than Scaruffi.

Some of his most interesting comments are sadly still only available in Italian, in the letters section. He replies to lots of the common criticisms levelled at him. The one comment about him that I've never agreed with is that he's an overly harsh critic. Let me put it this way: if you actually bought every album he suggests to "buy eventually", you'd have ... 2000 or so albums, and that's just a basic discography, and doesn't even cover avant, classical, new age and everything else.

Interesting. I only discovered his site in 2004, I think. I also don't think he's "too harsh", and I trust Scaruffi more than any other music critic.

Yes, I really wish more was translated into English (Google Translate just doesn't do the justice). For example, on his Moondog page, he writes, "He virtually invented every single genre of rock, electronic and world music." I wonder if he supports this high claim in Italian, because he doesn't in the brief English capsule.

Where is the letters section?

Dang, I am missing a lot of good stuff!

i use http://www.freetranslation.com/ for translations

though you get some funny results. Bruce Springsteen translates to Caterpillars Springsteen and Frank
Zappa becomes Frank Hoe

It seems a little better than Google's translations, but still pretty unreadable.

you could also learn Italian and not need to use translators : )

I don't know what backwater country you're from, but in the U.S.A. we know that the world should learn our language, not vice-versa. While you're at it, drop that clumsy metric system. Freedom Fahrenheit forever!

Add Bitch Magnet - Umber (1989) to the overvalued list.

What don't you like about The River?

It might help to think about Twin Infinitives in the same way he thinks of Pan Sonic's Kesto: "This is not an album for people to listen to, but a message to be decoded by future generations."

It's a fascinating piece of work. My only problem with it is the female vocals. Of all the abrasive sounds on that record, her voice (for me) is the worst.

First, I often find it difficult to find the innovation in singer-songwriters' music. Second, Springsteen inhabits a different world than I, so I can't "relate" to his songs even when I do pay attention to the lyrics. Mark Oliver Everett, for example, hits a little closer to home for me.

I relate quite closely to a lot of the songs, and I think I could relate even closer to some of the songs if I were American.

Do you drive? Half the songs mention cars or highways. Makes great driving music :o)

Funny, I was going to mention that: I don't like cars or driving.

"...even when I do pay attention to the lyrics." That's a fundamental misunderstanding of Springsteen's work. The music may or may not be great (and I think that it is great.) But to ignore his lyrics or even the context of his lyrics makes his recordings meaningless.

Springsteen's music may in fact serve to obscure a song. It is easy to forget that "Born in the U.S.A." is about a man mourning the death of a friend and the failure of his own life a decade after they were sent to Vietnam. It is the boy from "Born to Run" who has been stripped of every illusion. He never escaped the death trap and now Wendy is gone, they will never walk in the sun and he's got nowhere to run, ain't got nowhere to go.

Feel free to sing along with the chorus. It's one of the all-time great hooks. But when it comes to Springsteen you can't hear the music if you're not listening to the lyrics.

I'm a cool rockin' daddy in the U.S.A.

The big problem is laziness. I can't understand most lyrics for most bands just by listening. Somebody should teach them all how to sing. I would have a much greater appreciation of more music if I held a lyrics sheet in front of me while I listened to the music, just as I would if read the score while the music played. But I can't be bothered to do either because I like to multitask while I listen to music. I can't follow along with lyrics because I'm busy reading and writing on Listology while I'm listening.

From reading your (Scaruffic?) appreciation of music I never would have guessed that listening to music was part of so many multi-tasks for you. I often do much the same... but with different music. Certainly not lyric-based music if I'm doing something else that activates my language centers. Leonard Cohen and crosswords don't mix. (I believe that is the title of his next album.)

I'm not sure that reading along with a score would ever help me... although a transcription of a solo part often does help. Did you end up shelling out for the Edly's Music Theory book?

I do hope that you give Bob Dylan's lyrics a good glance. I think they're worth it.

Keep on reading and writing and... 'rithmetic-ing.

Reading a score wouldn't help me either, undoubtedly because I did not shell out for Edly's Music Theory book. And I couldn't find it at my library. I'm taking a piano class and finding that the more I know about how music works, the less I like it. So, I'll continue to enjoy Arvo Part in blissful ignorance, and bang randomly on the piano until I find something that sounds good to me.

If I study music, it will become work, not play. I have a friend who went to school to be an architect but dropped out to be a postman because, he said, if he did drafting as a job it would take all the fun out of it.

If you're interested, here's his top albums, circa 2001

1 Captain Beefheart: Trout Mask Replica (Straight)
2 Velvet Underground & Nico (Verve)
3 Doors (Elektra)
4 Robert Wyatt: Rock Bottom (Virgin)
5 Popol Vuh: Hosianna Mantra (Pilz)
6 Pere Ubu: Modern Dance (Blank)
7 Royal Trux: Twin Infinitives (Drag City)
8 Faust: IV (Virgin)
9 Nick Cave: The Good Son (Mute)
10 Peter Gabriel: Passion (Geffen)
11 Bruce Springsteen: River (CBS)
12 Nico: Desert Shore (Reprise)
13 John Fahey: Fare Forward Voyagers (Takoma)
14 Klaus Schulze: Irrlicht (Brain)
15 Tim Buckley: Lorca (Elektra)
16 Cop Shoot Cop: Ask Questions Later (Interscope)
17 Lisa Germano: Geek The Girl (4AD)
18 Morphine: Cure For Pain (Rykodisc)
19 Foetus: Nail (SomeBizarre)
20 Bob Dylan: Blonde On Blonde (CBS)

Going even further back, he had Uncle Meat and Blonde on Blonde in the top 10, and Foetus' Thaw instead of Nail.

Ha! That's very interesting, thanks for sharing it! I thik his current list is more impregnable.

Just for easy reference, his top 20 from 1998:

1 Captain Beefheart: Trout Mask Replica (Straight, 1969)
2 Doors (Elektra, 1967)
3 Velvet Underground & Nico (Verve, 1966)
4 Robert Wyatt: Rock Bottom (Virgin, 1974)
5 Popol Vuh: Hosianna Mantra (Basf, 1973)
6 Bob Dylan: Blonde On Blonde (CBS, 1966)
7 John Fahey: Fare Forward Voyegers (Takoma, 1969)
8 Frank Zappa: Uncle Meat (Bizarre, 1969)
9 Pink Floyd: Ummagumma (Harvest, 1969)
10 Tim Buckley: Lorca (Elektra, 1970)
11 Royal Trux: Twin Infinitives (Drag City, 1990)
12 Nico: Desert Shore (Reprise, 1971)
13 Klaus Schulze: Irrlicht (Brain, 1972)
14 Pere Ubu: Modern Dance (Blank, 1976)
15 Bruce Springsteen: River (CBS, 1980)
16 Nick Cave: The Good Son (Mute, 1990)
17 Neu 2 (UA, 1973)
18 Foetus: Thaw (Some Bizarre, 1988)
19 Jimi Hendrix: Are You Experienced (Track, 1967)
20 Sonic Youth: Daydream Nation (Blast First, 1988)

Do you have any online content? If no, will you create some? Surely someone who has heard as much rock music as you have could write up some opinions and insights and discoveries that would be much appreciated.

I've had a few sites over the years, but nothing of note. I received an email last year from someone who visited one of my sites that I had completely forgotten about. (I had to ask him for the URL so I could see what he was talking about.)

At the moment I don't have anything online. I have an offline site that I use for my own reference. I've kept year-by-year music lists for about 10 years now, which cover the 1960s till today. Most of my other ventures (top 100 lists of "unknown classics" plus comments, etc) are aborted soon after i start them. i.e. when I remember that I'm not a writer.

But i do look forward to a lukeprog.com site, with unique histories of music, film and computer games : )

One need not be a writer to make lists!

I spent a little time looking into film history and seeing relevant titles. So far I think Persona is the best film I've seen, along with Battleship Potemkin, 2001, and Citizen Kane. Got any favorites yet? Oh, Scaruffi plans to rewrite his history of cinema this year.

Don't hold your breath for lukeprog.com.

"One need not be a writer to make lists!"

My lists on their own aren't much use to anybody except me. Annotated lists with even 100 words or so about some of my favourites might be useful to others.

"Oh, Scaruffi plans to rewrite his history of cinema this year."

I was hoping he'd do that. I think it's almost completely in italian at the moment.

"Got any favorites yet?"

Some of the last few that made the biggest impressions:
Idi I Smotri
Ordet
Menilmontant
Plus I love just about everything Buster Keaton ever did. (I recently bought his box set.) Same with Harold Lloyd.

Not sure what my all time best might be. 2001 would be up there.

I just requested Come and See through interlibrary loan, thanks. Dreyer's work always seemed to me like the immature (I mean this in the best way possible) version of what Bergman eventually achieved. Menilmontant was good. I can't remember if Safety Last! or Metropolis was the first feature-length silent I saw (as late as age 19), but together they birthed my interest in pre-Cary-Grant cinema.

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Looks like you deleted your post, but I got the original through instant email notification. I did derive pleasure from later showing The General to my parents and brother; they enjoyed some brief moments. Then I played Persona for my peers, and they hated it, and I loved doing that.

Why did you love that they hated it?

Personally I find it disappointing to be labelled as a guy who listens to "weird music" or watches movies that "make no sense, so what's the point of them?"

I didn't love that they hated it, though I knew they would. I loved being able to share something I love with them, especially since I'm the only one in my community that I know of who loves Persona. Do you have many friends who basically just watch mainstream new releases that would sit through Persona with you?

I, too, find it disappointing to be labelled that way. I find it more disappointing that I have so few people on my site of the 'net to share my love for music with. I almost started jumping up and down when I ran into an old friend who now likes Sonic Youth.

And "knowledge puffs up." I'm very vulnerable to the trappings of pride when I discuss music with someone who can name fewer than a dozen albums from the 70s, or wasn't aware that important "classical" music was written after Copland, or when I discuss film with someone who's never heard of Murnau. I joke about (bad) elitism on Listology, but it's something I struggle with. Love does not boast.

Can you tell I read the New Testament? :-)

*side of the net...

Thanks for recommending Idi i smotri. Once I decided it wasn't "over the top", nearly every scene astonished me.

I didn't recommend it. I said it made a big impression on me :o)

It is incredible though. It has more jaw-dropping scenes than any film I've seen in a few years, and i've been slogging through lots and lots of the all time greats.

Ha. I actually saw it without any idea what it was about, apart from it being some sort of war movie.

Did you get to see it on a big screen?

I noticed that it's on the 1000 "they shoot pictures" list which you have posted. I'm watching a lot from the "1001 movies you MUST SEE!!" book, which hugely overlaps that other list. I'll be working through that after (or if) i finish the 1001.
What do you think of Rosenbaum's Essential 1000 Films compared to the other lists?

No big screen. I like big screens, but not the rooms that hold them, the chairs before them, and the lack of a pause button.

Rosenbaum's criteria for selection are, alas, no less confusing than the blended criteria of 100s of critics (as in the They Shoot Pictures list). Also, dozens of his selections are completely unavailable. If you thought Scaruffi's rock lists had some obscure titles...

I may abandon Rosenbaum's list.

Have you looked into home theatre projectors?

My friend has one, but I've never seen it in action. I'll look into it when I have, well, a home, and money. But by then, I may not choose to use money for home theatre projectors.

"Don't hold your breath for lukeprog.com."

It's alive!

Well, I hope nobody held their breath for over a year. :)

I'm flattered you noticed!

lukeprog.com
Better Living Through Better Thinking

Another look at his earlier rankings and opinions, just for the 90s: here.

Angkor Wat can be had for under $5, but it ain't my style, anyway. Here's After the Rain, Ocean, Winston Park, Transition, Jon Hassel for $75, and Colours of Time. I can't find the others easily.

which have been the most impressive of those that you've heard?

Faust, Irrlicht, Neu, Desertshore, Parable Of Arable Land, Third, Third Ear Band, Velvet Underground & Nico, and Trout Mask Replica are the most impressive. Daydream Nation and Master of Puppets are two of my favorites.

the next time you email him, tell him to put Third into the top 25. i'm sure he'll do it :o)

Oh my goodness! AJ just helped me realize the Third Ear Band album I've been hearing all along is Alchemy, not Third Ear Band, which Scaruffi, at least, believes is far superior! I can't wait to get my hands on the real Third Ear Band, now, since I think Alchemy is so incredible!

Wow, I didn't realize the extent of that mistake! Good luck finding the real Third Ear Band!

the one you want has four tracks
1. air 2. earth 3. fire 4. water

i prefer it over alchemy. if you fell in love with the other one, you might prefer that one. first loves are usually stronger

[whine]... no more lists on Listology?

a couple of corrections to the titles:

Mark Kramer - The Guilt Trip (1993)
is actually just "Kramer" - the Guilt Trip

Dream Syndicate - Days Of The Wine And Roses (1982)
is "The Days of Wine and Roses"

Stan Ridgeway - Big Heat (1986)
is Stan Ridgway

Chiastic Side
is Chiastic Slide

I know that these aren't your mistakes, but I thought i'd point them out anyway.

I've been listening to Parable of Arable Land more lately, but I've always been confused as to what the correct track list is.
My CD has five tracks, but it sounds like the titles are incorrectly named. Some sources say there are actually 12 tracks. I guess it doesn't really matter, but it's still bugging me.
Also, what do you think of the Type O Negative album? Deserving of a 9/10 rating?

The copy I have is 12 tracks, but 7 of them have the same name: "Free-Form Freakout." These are some of the best tracks on the album. How many minutes is your copy?

The title Slow, Deep, and Hard is wonderfully apt for the album's music and grievously apt for its cover art. Master of Puppets was one of my first great loves, one of the albums that opened my ears to a world of music beyond the crushing boredom of CCM. So, I reacted when I saw Scaruffi rate Slow, Deep, and Hard a full point above Puppets. Then I came to love that album, too, and I suppose it's as deserving of 9/10 as many albums awarded that score. The "silence" track, I think, must be a cheap John Cage joke, and should've been cut from the album.

My copy is 43:36 minutes. The 5 tracks are: Hurricane Fighter Plane, Transparent Radiation, War Sucks, Pink Stainless Tail, and Parable of Arable Land. The first track is 21 minutes and seems to contain 3 separate songs: Hurricane Fighter Plane, Transparent Radiation and War Sucks.
I also like SLD, especially the last track. It just didn't seeem like an album Scaruffi would rate so highly, but then again, it's pretty idiosyncratic.

The 43:36 minute version is the Collectables release, and is, i think, the best release we have. The original side 1 of the lp becomes the 21 minute track and contains hurricane fighter plane(1), transparent radiation (2) and war sucks (3), with four free-form freakouts (f) before and after the songs. Thusly:

f 1 f 2 f 3 f

The other version is the woeful mini-lp CD release by Sunspots. While they cleaned up the sound (not needed imo. not done effectively either), they also ruined the intro by cutting out the loud *CRASH* that opens the first track. This new version sort of fizzles/slides into the freakout. The running time was also cut (this makes me ill!) to 38:24. They completely cut out the free-form freakout after War Sucks, which is about 3 minutes worth of the best moments on the album. I have no idea what they were thinking to do this. If War Sucks trails out to silence right before Pink Stainless Tail starts, you've got the Sunspots version.
The Sunspots CD is split into six tracks on this version, with the free-form freakouts attached to the songs
1 hurricane fighter plane (7:24)
2 transparent radiation (6:51)
3 war sucks (3:53) (18:08 total for side 1)
4 pink stainless tail (8:07)
5 parable of arable land (3:00)
6 former reflections enduring doubt (9:09)

The mp3 version that was most common on pnp ages ago had the song titles all wrong. Parable of Arable Land was labelled as War Sucks. War Sucks is not an instrumental! If you have this version, you can probably figure out which should be which just by the lyrics, or by taking into account the number of free-form freakouts up to that point.

edit: actually, i think this mp3 version i'm remembering must be the collectables version. like you said, the tracks don't match up. whoever sent the track details to the database did it incorrectly

Wow, thanks for all that info! I'm lucky I got the "right" version.

Thanks for the info. Makes sense now, except that there's no name for the 2-minute track 5 on the Collectables version (former reflections enduring doubt part 2?). You'd think they could get the track names right.
Btw, lukeprog, mind if I copy this list?

Of course not. Especially since it's not my list!

I meant the idea of "Heard of Scaruffi's List"

I look forward to your clone.

I have no idea about that 2 minute track. The last track is subtitled "I pass in A Rain That Is Always Too Soon", so maybe it's part 2, like you said.

That album really deserves a proper reissue, with nothing cut out. FFS.

fuck! i got ripped off! why would they take off those 3 minutes? i just downloaded the other version. it did not MAKE the album, but i still want every minute of dissonance i can get, and that i paid for...it is what the album is all about!

Supposedly, this is the new Muse single. It sounds nothing like Muse. And it's boring.

Manually edited, Scaruffi's database has many consistency errors. For example, Today is the Day - Sadness Will Prevail is 7.5, but doesn't appear on "Best rock albums of the 2000s". I've added it here. Also, Pelt's Empty Bell Ringing In The Sky is 6.5 but listed as 7.5 on "Best rock albums of the 1990s". I've deleted it here and added Ayahuasca, which is 7.5 but not listed on "Best rock albums of the 1990s". Etc.

That Today is the Day album was upgraded two updates ago

here are some other recent 7.5/10s that aren't on your list
TV On The Radio: Desperate Youth Blood Thirsty Babes
Orthrelm: OV
Colleen: The Golden Morning Breaks
Sufjan Stevens: Illinoise
Liars: Drum's Not Dead
Keith Fullerton Whitman: Lisbon
Xiu Xiu: A Promise
Tool: Lateralus
Stars Of The Lid: The Tired Sounds Of

Thanks!

Also, Lida Husik's "Your Bag," Neil Young's "Rust Never Sleeps" and Steve Roach's "Well of Souls" all got demoted to 7.5/10.
And, he left out the following 8/10 albums on this list:
Swans: Soundtracks for the Blind
Phish: A Live One
And maybe "Marshmallows" by the For Carnation, which he considers an EP but is long enough to be an album

Oofta. I should've left Pandora's Box closed.

Not sure what Scaruffi's thinking regarding the Orthrelm album... I like that band, but that album's not so much. The first twelve minutes or so have the guitar player basically playing the same note. It gets better from there, but it's still skippable.

Where did you find Jon Hassell's "Aka-Darbari-Java: Magic Realism"?

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wait...what?

Women calling this "coding." But men are nerdy at it. Sorry. That was leetspeak for "Soulseek".

Good Lord. Jim, I need an "I'm an idiot, delete this post" button.

I won't be progressing much on this list now. Instead, I'm narrowing my want-list to the following (of any genre):

Rhys Chatham - An Angel Moves Too Fast To See [Box Set]
Julius Eastman - Unjust Malaise
Blind Idiot God - Blind Idiot God
Roberto Gerhard - Concerto for Orchestra
Alfred Schnittke - Concerto Grosso #5
Harry Partch - Revelation
Peter Maxwell Davies - Vesalii Icones
Michael Tippett - Mask of Time
Rake - The Art Ensemble of Rake/Tell-Tale Moog
Mnemonist Orchestra - Mnemonist Orchestra
Red Temple Spirits - Dancing To Restore An Eclipsed Moon
Pain Teens - Destroy Me Lover
Yume Bitsu - Yume Bitsu
Jim Steinman - Original Sin

Just picked up an awesome batch of albums. I love Acupuncture, Rootless Cosmopolitan, A-Z and Half Mute. Especially Acupuncture. And many others I like.

312 albums out of 390 something...almost there. Acupuncture is a pretty cool album; I like the 30 minute final track especially. A-Z is also a fine release.
Anyway, I see you got Original Sin. That's the last 8.5+/10 album I need. Is it worth getting, though? I've been holding off on it; the clips I've heard haven't made me want to pay for it.

Also, for completeness' sake, this list leaves off Tortoise's Millions Now Living Will Never Die, which received a 8.5/10.

It's definitely one of my least favorite 8.5+ albums, along with The River, Down Colorful Hill, and Underwater Moonlight. I imagine there are hundreds of lower-rated albums you'll enjoy far better.

The title of Virginia Astley's From Gardens Where We Feel Secure so aptly describes its music I laughed while listening to it.

Does anyone know a good method of finding the recording month and year for a particular rock album, assuming you don't own it already and can check the liner notes?

AMG occasionally lists these data, but not often. And many databases frequently list the recording date for classical music, but not for rock.

Anyone who listens to contemporary classical music should find this hilarious.

Hey Im new here, but like you lukeprog and afterhours I have been working my way through Scaruffis list of greatest rock albums. However, I have heard almost no classical music and I was wondering if either of you could give me some recommendations to get started. I really have no idea where to begin.

Classical music is difficult to break into, particularly because there are so many different versions and performances of each work, and such a vast catalog of works, and very little consensus on what the best works are. You could make this brief journey:

Carlo Gesualdo's madrigals (perhaps the best madrigals ever written, imo)
Bach - Mass in B, Brandenburg Concertos
Beethoven - Symphony #3 (birth of Romanticism)
Beethoven - Symphony #9 (often mentioned as greatest piece of music ever)
Hector Berlioz - Symphonie Fantastique
Richard Wagner - Tristan and Isolde (often listed as the best opera, and a turning point in music's tonality)
Giuseppe Verdi - Requiem
Brahms - Symphony 3
Gustav Mahler - Symphony 9
Stravinsky - Rite of Spring (another great turning point in music)
Schoenberg - Pierrot Lunaire
almost anything by Shostakovich, especially his symphonies

and in the modern area, there are so many simultaneous threads of musical development, it's impossible to follow:

Stockhausen - Song of the Youths (Gesang der Junglinge)
Terry Riley - A Rainbow in Curved Air
Steve Reich - Music for 18 Musicians
Arvo Part - Tabula Rasa
Boulez - Repons (music with interactive software)
Penderecki - Hiroshima Threnody
Lutoslawski - Symphony 3
Gorecki - Symphony 3 (the most popular piece of avantgarde music ever)
Golijov - St. Mark Passion

But really, there's a hundred other pieces you could start out with, as well. But certainly Beethoven's 9th and Rite of Spring should serve you well.

The third movement of Sibelius' 5th symphony contains one of my absolute favorite melodies of all time. It's a very popular piece.

And please, share with us your own musical opinions, and your agreements/disagreements with Scaruffi!

Thanks. Also I had another question with regards to classical music, do different performances of a work differ significantly? I know its a lot to ask, but it would help if you could recommend some specific performances. And another question, is soulseek useful for finding classical, or should I buy/use another program? And with regards to rock, I haven't heard nearly as many from Scaruffis list as you have. I have heard almost all of the 9s, but I haven't heard as many of the 8s as you have. I don't really think I'll make a list of my favorites until I've heard more rock, and especially jazz and classical albums.

I'm a poor fan of classical music in that I don't pay attention to performances. For modern music, this is usually okay because there is only one existing performance. But for Beethoven, I dunno. You'll have to ask somebody else.

The best place to find classical music is perhaps skafunkrastapunk community.

Just listened to Rite of Spring. It was great, but not amazing, if you know what I mean. It was sort of what I was expecting though, having almost no backround in classical whatsoever. I'll probably like it even more when I listen to it a couple more times. I think I'll listen to Gorecki's 3rd before I go to bed.

Also, do you plan on making a list of greatest jazz albums? It would really be great to see your opinions about jazz.

Only listening to a lot of classical music will train your ear to appreciate classical music. I suspect that if you listen to thousands of classical music works over several years and develop the ear- and mind-language to appreciate it, you will return to Rite of Spring and find it stupendous. Let me know what you think of Gorecki's 3rd.

Thanks for your interest. I would like to eventually journey chronologically through all significant jazz recordings, and then add the best albums to my Greatest Albums list. But that is surely many years off. There are a few jazz albums I'm already pretty sure would land near the top:

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue
Ornette Coleman - The Shape of Jazz to Come
Carla Bley - Escalator Over the Hill
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme

Sorry it took me a little while to respond, I was very busy last week and we went to my uncle's for thanksgiving for 4 days, so I didn't have much time. Anyway, while I was on vacation I listened to Gorecki's 3rd, Beethovens 9th, Rite of Spring again, and Penderecki's Hiroshima Threnody. Rite of Spring was pretty much the same as last time. Hiroshima was great. Gorecki's 3rd I found a bit boring and inert, but this was also sort of what I expected, as it is one of the few minimalist works I have listened to. Beethoven's 9th gave me a feeling similar to when I heard Moon in June for the first time, a little bewildering and I wasn't really able to come to terms with it all, it is such a huge work. Like you said though, it is probably just a matter of listening to more other classical works, and multiple times for each one individually while I am still a beginner. Would you recommend anything from Bartok? There was a whole set of his string quartets, and Concerto for Orchestra and Music for Percussion on soulseek with no waiting in line, so I just decided to download sooner rather than later. Just wondering if his works are a good thing to start out with or if they are more diffucult.

I'd love to be able to better introduce you to classical music, but my own exposure and understanding of it is pretty random, and lacking in history and context. I do hope to take a three-course series at my university on the History of Western Classical Music to help put everything I've heard in context.

If I were you, I'd work my way through some "classical staples" lists like this one, find out what styles and periods most appeal to you, and then further explore those. Once you have some idea of what you like, then I and others will be better able to assist your search (and, others' recommendations will become more necessary as "staples lists" don't exist for the niches; try finding a list on "Greatest Spectralist Works").

Oh, and: I shouldn't have mentioned spectralism without recommending Tristan Murail's uber-fantastic Gondwana, which I am listening to this very moment.

Bang on a Can's Classics album is a good intro to recent, popular rock-influenced chamber works.

I just noticed this conversation and just want to add that, for the recordings, I recommend the Penguin Guide. You can find it at any major bookstore. It is by far the most accurate and complete for my ears. They're updated yearly and you can't go wrong with their choices of the best recordings of each composer's works.

I was wondering, now that you've heard all but two of Scaruffi's 8+/10 albums, what do you think is the weakest album(s) on the list? An album that you'd give a 6/10 to, say.

Gosh, that's tough. Let me listen and think for a while.

If you say The River i'm not talking to you anymore :-)

Nah, it ain't that bad. :)