Favorite Post Of The Week
Submitted by stooky on Sun, 10/24/2004 - 05:05
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- My favorite post of this week comes from Odysseus, who unleashed this zinger on an unsuspecting world:
- 50 Chick Flicks A Man Can Love And Why by stooky
- On 10/23/04 at 2:25 PM, 0dysseus replied:
I love the list. After all, you're only a man.
As for Bull Durham, forget "Church of Baseball... a guy will listen to anything if he thinks it's foreplay." What did it for me was the "long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days." As for men, I think that any baseball movie has some appeal. Yes, even A League of Their Own .
But "engorgingly", "loins", "feminine gumbo"? These do not strike me as chick qualities. (Besides which, we refer to it as "womanly bisque".) Do you divide all movies into either Chick Flick or Guy Movie categories? Is it the binary choice EXPLOSIONS/NOT EXPLOSIONS? Or it might just be that my middle ground is much wider than yours (but my hips are narrow.) This could account for your take on W.R. - Misterije organizma (which I don't understand but also refuse to see.) "Dripping," yes. "Cloying," no.
Dude, you got a great thing going. If you love it, set it free, it will come back to you, don't post fish if it doesn't. I have to say that I love the quality of the discourse above. It's quality AND quantity (and the motion of the ocean, not the line count tally.) "You're so money and you don't even know it!"
I have to say that "loin-whipping" evokes very unpleasant images including that of a dyslexic Siegfried & Roy... perhaps that should be "Sigerfied & Ory." Speaking of dyslexia: I thought you were making the case for womanly baseball by citing Pedro Almodóvar. That would certainly make me cry, only, "There's no crying in baseball!" [ reply to 0dysseus ] - Plus it contains a compliment for yours truly...at least I think it does?
- This week my fave comes courtesy of the big J and his (slightly windy) disection of THE BILLS.
Why Volume 2 Is By Far The Best Kill Bill Volume
by grandpa_chum
You've just gotta be fishing for debate, so here goes:- Let's start with the fact that Volume 1 does not have a single shot, nevertheless a scene or sequence, that is essential, in my opinion, to the overall story.
- The whole story is "bride left for dead on wedding day, seeks revenge on five villains." I really don't see why the three she does in Vol.2 are more "essential" than the two in Vol. 1. But you do specifics below, so we'll revisit this then...
- Volume 1 in my opinion is, pardon the expression, chock full of filler and nothing else. Sure, the bride battles some assassins in some of the best and most exciting fight scenes you'll see, and sure, some crazy 88's walk down some hallways with cool music playing. But is there really anything in this film that, when added to Volume 2, would make Volume 2 a better film.
- [1] A slam-bang opening that blows the doors off that cringe-inducing talking-to-the-audience-while-driving scene that opens Vol. 2. Lawd, I really hoped that was a trailer-only scene. [2] O-ren's anime backstory. [3] A sense of mystery and menace surrounding Bill.
- My answer is no. Sure Volume 1 has some fun moments and I'm sure the people who believe pulp fiction is the best movie ever made just fell in love with it
- Interesting. I would actually say Vol. 2 is closer to Pulp Fiction than Vol. 1.
- Volume 2 alone holds not only the 3 best sequences in the movie, but the only 3 essential chapters in the whole of the two volumes. First off, the wedding rehearsal assassination is all we really need to know about the whole ordeal...
- I preferred just the taste we are given in the opening of Vol. 1. As much as I enjoyed the longer sequence in Vol. 2, I don't think it was superior.
- Secondly, the chapter dealing with pai mai was enough kung fu for me, and i'm sure even sufficient enough for the fans of the kung fu references in Volume 1 to get their fix.
- If you're making a kung fu movie (or homage), the training sequences are only one ingredient in the formula. You can't leave out the fights (unless you aren't making a kung fu movie), and Vol. 1 has all the best fights. If you're going to chop fighting, you'd chop it from Vol. 2.
- Thirdly, although disputed by many people as being a let down, is the final encounter between Bill and the bride, and even the whole ordeal about the child just prior.
- I enjoyed it, but did feel it was a bit of a letdown. Tarantino is clearly reaching for the killer banter that elevated Reservoir Fiction so highly, but here his reach exceeds his grasp. "Superman" has nothing on "Royal with Cheese".
- I love it, and maybe if it hadn't been for all the fast paced, empty action fight scenes in Volume 1 there wouldn't have been so many people expecting the same ol' kung fu show down that lasted 20 minutes with bill and the bride trading blows with samurai swords.
- That was not my expectation, actually. I wanted the finale to work better on its own terms.
- Don't get me wrong, I liked Vol. 2, but not as much as Vol. 1, and I think a unified whole might be the best work of all, especially with some cuts.
~ posted by jim
- Good points...even if I don't agree. :?)
Surely it does. Thank you for your consideration. I try not to contribute to stuff I don't like. And I do try to contribute.
Good to hear and I for one think that more interpost-posting would be a welcome thing. Maybe even (dare I say) a list, your earlier complaints noted.
T'ho
:?)
what an honor...just to have had a part in it!
in fact it seems to be a trend... the first one was in response to my post and this one is in response to my article.
How 'bout including links to the conversations from which you clip your favorite posts?
Good idea. I shall, tomorrow.
T'ho
:?)
Thanks! Only "slightly windy", though? I shall endeavor to be windier in the future.
It's kinda hard to read with no distinction between gramps' points and my responses though.