My Favorite Albums (8.25+/10)

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  1. 10/10
  2. The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady - Charles Mingus

  3. 9.75/10
  4. White Light/White Heat - The Velvet Underground
  5. Rock Bottom - Robert Wyatt
  6. Trout Mask Replica - Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band
  7. Future Days - Can

  8. 9.5/10
  9. Ascension (Edition II) - John Coltrane
  10. Fun House - The Stooges
  11. Perfect From Now On - Built to Spill
  12. Good - Morphine
  13. The Modern Dance - Pere Ubu

  14. 9.25/10
  15. Starsailor - Tim Buckley
  16. Tago Mago - Can
  17. Highway 61 Revisited - Bob Dylan
  18. The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn - Pink Floyd
  19. The Velvet Underground And Nico - The Velvet Underground and Nico
  20. In The Aeroplane Over The Sea - Neutral Milk Hotel

  21. 9/10
  22. Half Machine Lip Moves - Chrome
  23. Exile On Main St. - The Rolling Stones
  24. Dub Housing - Pere Ubu
  25. Frizzle Fry - Primus
  26. Meet The Residents - The Residents
  27. Parable Of Arable Land - The Red Crayola

  28. 8.75/10
  29. Nail - Scraping Foetus off the Wheel
  30. Y - The Pop Group
  31. Fire Of Love - The Gun Club
  32. Yerself Is Steam - Mercury Rev
  33. Loveless - My Bloody Valentine
  34. Tri Repetae - Autechre

  35. 8.5/10
  36. Safe As Milk - Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band
  37. Kick Out The Jams - MC5
  38. Yes - Morphine
  39. Marquee Moon - Television
  40. Dummy - Portishead [11-track edition]
  41. The Beatles - The Beatles
  42. The Doors - The Doors
  43. The Charm Of The Highway Strip - The Magnetic Fields

  44. 8.25/10
  45. Abbey Road - The Beatles
  46. An Awesome Wave - alt-j
  47. Suicide - Suicide
  48. Surfer Rosa - Pixies
  49. Third - Soft Machine


  50. UNDER CONSIDERATION:
  51. Astral Weeks - Van Morrison
  52. Fare Forward Voyagers (Soldier's Choice) - John Fahey
  53. A Love Supreme - John Coltrane
  54. Twin Infinitives - Royal Trux
  55. Faust - Faust
  56. Double Nickels On The Dime - Minutemen
  57. Spiderland - Slint
  58. The Marble Index - Nico
  59. Buy - James Chance and the Contortions
  60. Blonde On Blonde - Bob Dylan
  61. Unit Structures - Cecil Taylor
  62. Daydream Nation - Sonic Youth
  63. Zen Arcade - Hüsker Dü
  64. The United States of America - The United States of America
  65. Bufo Alvarius, Amen 29:15 - Bardo Pond
  66. Enter The Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) - Wu-Tang Clan
  67. Spirit They're Gone, Spirit They've Vanished - Avey Tare and Panda Bear
  68. A Rainbow In Curved Air - Terry Riley

Interesting list. And at last an user, who don't think that the best album of all time only worth a 9,5/10.

Thank you :D

And I nearly thought that, but Highway 61 was so good, I couldn't rate it lower than 10.

Sweet list.

Fantastic list... and "White Light/White Heat" is rated higher than "& Nico" ! Awesome.

Thanks. VU & Nico has more variety while probably being more consistent too but I enjoy the thick, druggy sound of WL/WH very, very slightly more. They are just about tied.

Exactly ... The "thick druggy sound" makes every second of the album priceless.

Seeing The Faust Tapes on your list made me wonder why I always remember it as being kinda boring. Maybe I should re-listen to it right now.

[Plays the Faust Tapes. 15 minutes pass.]

Nope. It doesn't click. I hope something happens the next time around.

[Stops Faust Tapes. Plays "It's a rainy day, sunshine girl"]

Re: Faust Tapes.... It's kind of like an even more free-form version of the self-titled. I enjoy it. I swear this list is ridiculously outdated though. Faust Tapes probably isn't even a 9.0/10.

White Light/White Heat is now number one? Sweet!

Have you heard the 3-disc 45th Anniversary Deluxe Edition? It has lots of great stuff: the album in stereo and mono, a live set with with Cale, the instrumental version of The Gift, some recordings from the same period, and an alternate mix of I Heard Her Call My Name (the same take as the original) where Morrison, Cale and Tucker are much more audible than before.

Yep :)

That sounds like a lot of stuff. I don't really listen to bonus tracks much unless they were officially released previously, but I guess I'll have to make this an exception.

Your list proves to be more solid every day. I'm listening to Half Machine Lip Moves, in its entirety, for the first time, right now. It's blowing my mind far more than than every other psycho/new-wave/space-rock/post-punk/whatever album.

I hope you update this list sometime. At least up to 30 albums.

Haha I know exactly how you feel. HMLM is amazing in the right mood, and on my first two listens it was seriously my #1 album of all time. I should relisten to it though.

I'm thinking of making a 2010s list first, maybe I'll find a masterpiece. Anyways, I should probably expand this to 9's and 8.5's by the end of this year.

Which edition of Acsension? Do the 2 editions sound similar? I've only heard the second edition (first take I suppose)

Edition II, it's the only one I've heard as well. It would be interesting to compare the two however.

Have you heard A Love Supreme yet?

Been wondering the same thing. Also: Davis and Mingus and Coleman's masterpieces.

Yes, it's probably a 9 but I need to relisten. I have listened to a few albums each by Mingus (The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady is probably at least a 9.5), Davis and Coleman as well. I'd probably have included quite a few jazz albums here if I hadn't been out of touch with the genre for such a long time. Hopefully this list will be more diverse by the end of the year.

Listen to Space Ritual by Hawkwind.

Thanks for that, I've only listened to parts of it before!

That moment when Rock Bottom fully reveals itself to another lucky soul :-)

I think it was a matter of not having paid attention before, and/or not being able to listen to the album as a whole (I don't really remember why). Late at night, being tired as hell, it was just easier to get lost in the album. It totally felt like a mad rollercoaster ride :D (Not that I've ever been on a rollercoaster, haha)

Love experiencing sudden epiphanies like that :)

So ... that Mingus album ... what's its name? Black Saint ... or something? ... Well, anyway, it's not too shabby. Some solid notes here, some nice drum rolls there...

I think it's called Let the Black Saint Hear Music, that's the one you're talking about right? Anyway, man, gotta say I totally agree with you. It's like, there's so many fucking instruments man, and it sounds so huge. It makes me feel like Mingus is inviting me to get the hell out and kick some ass, dance like crazy, rule the world yo. It's nice background music too. FOR WHEN I AM THINKING ABOUT HOW AWESOME I AM HELL YEAH <3 MINGUS

:-)

RE: sounds so fucking huge ... yes, one could say this is when Mingus brought jazz up to the same massive intensity as classical symphonies (which was one of his intentions starting, I believe, with Epitaph)

I'd say. Something I like about the slower parts: they're really cool on their own, but then the music speeds up and suddenly it's like those parts were just there to make the climaxes seem even more awesome.

I gotta check out Epitaph and other Mingus albums sometime.

You gotta hear Let My Children Hear Music. It's unbelievable. I love it as much as I love Black Saint, if not more.

Thanks, I don't believe I've heard that one yet :-)

I've always thought that having a rating scale where one's highest rating isn't the max possible rating made little sense. Suppose according to a scale, no 10/10 actually exists or ever will exist. Then wouldn't the highest assigned rating be, de facto, a 10/10? And because one can never know whether something will be the greatest thing they will ever experience, doesn't it make more sense to scale one's ratings based on what you currently consider the best?

But then again, because my musical preferences change all the time, I have little use for ordered lists, which is why I pretty much divide my favorites into "those I like" and "those I like A LOT". I'm curious; how do you (and others who want to answer) assign such precise rankings?

I can see it either way and agree with either system. One (mine) could be said to be based on a perceived ideal. One could say Beethoven's 9th is a 10/10 because it's the greatest work of all time -- and this would be fine -- but also, how could it be a true 10 if its 1st and last movements are so much better than its (albeit great) middle movements? Wouldn't they all have to at least be on that level to be a 10/10? An easier one is VU's WL/WH. Obviously it's not a 10 (in my system) if one half of the album (Sister Ray) is so much better than the first half...

On the other hand, if nothing has ever been better than [insert work of art], maybe it should be rated 10/10.

How do I assign such precise rankings? I just start from that ideal and work my way down, such as: If Beethoven's 9th is a 9.5 and Black Saint is an echelon lower, it's a 9.4, and so on. The exactness of it is refined over repeated experiences with the works. But first you have to start with deciding what your overall criteria is, what your greatest work is, how (if) that differs from one's ultimate "ideal", and work your way back from there. Then successively rate other works relative to that. Then, as you build the list you can use others that are more relate-able and easier to compare (example: comparing The Doors debut to Strange Days). One can get even more thoughtful and "scientific" with it when you start rating songs and comparing the albums more intricately.

In my system I (a) experience the content of the work in all its parts (or as much as I can dependent on my present understanding of it); (b) rate based on what degree I found it to be emotionally expressive (any emotion -- whatever the work is expressing) and how compelling it's expression(s)/idea(s) are. It doesn't necessarily have to have a high degree of both emotional expression and compelling ideas to rate high (for instance, Coltrane's Ascension mainly specializes in "emotional expression" -- and this is true for most free jazz), though specializing in both gets more necessary the higher one goes on the ratings. And, one becomes more necessary if the work has shortcomings in the other. In the case of Coltrane's Ascension is is one of the most intensely emotionally expressive albums of all time, so doesn't "need" to be compelling as much as a less emotionally expressive album might need to be, in order to rate high.

There is a certain degree Beethoven's 9th accomplishes "(b)" for me, which is a "9.5", and so on down the list. Whatever degree a work does "(b)" for me, I assign it that rating.

I agree with you to some extent; indeed, that's the only reason I rated The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady 10/10. I think maybe my previous rating of 9.8 might've been more suitable if I were, like AfterHours, working my way from an ideal. But even the ideal is vague so I choose to just make it simpler and have it at the highest possible rating. There's no right or wrong way for rating in my opinion. One has the complete freedom, after all, to keep changing the scale.

Half of these ratings are probably not even that reliable since I've been focusing more on movies for the past two months. And I'm still exploring the rating system so I don't think I have any answer that I myself would be sure about.

Although sometimes it's very tempting to create a very precisely rated list, I've decided not to create one. One reason is that if I created such a list, I would have to change the ratings and rankings almost every day, which would in fact make the precision somewhat pointless. The more important reason is that I don't believe everybody needs to know how I exactly feel about the albums and their differences. Everybody has their own taste and criteria so the most useful information I can give about an album is that it's not worth their time , good , great or a masterpiece .
The only albums that I try to rank very precisely are the masterpieces. Other than the ratings of those albums, my other ratings simply reflect my taste. I believe all the albums rated between 7/10 and 8.5/10 are great. If the reader's taste is very similar to my own taste in music, he/she might find the 8/10 and 8.5/10 albums very fascinating. If our tastes are very different, he/she might enjoy the 7/10 and 7.5/10 albums more than I do.

I listened to the original Bat Chain Puller today. Blew my mind. I think that it's one of his best albums. I wonder what your opinion on the album would be.