It depend on the mood. Lately I'm more motets, harp concertos and medieval music, but I will take a look on them on YT or else, when I want something different.
I was happy that on a less than 100 list you put a female composer, in most of the other lists I didn't seen any. The last I discover is baroque composer Bianca Maria Meda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpvunoRv00Y
Carter's music is not for the faint of heart. It is very complex and toweringly technical. However, if you are already acquainted with thorny atonal music, you should have no problem with it. Ljubica Maric's music, on the other hand, is more accessible.
Yes, I've seen your list. Very impressive. And the fact that you linked everyone to a YouTube video is no small feat either! I will give those recordings a listen.
Just like my 1000 best reading, I always change my mind and move the order, I think more and more to make it in date order, just like my movie list, so I will not have to worry about it.
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD! That is a LOT of music! I hope that in 30 years I will have caught up to you. There's no ratings, but your top 20 will definitely suffice.
Of course it could change (it's friggin Beethoven!), and I'll be more than happy to upgrade it if it does (Beethoven is my favorite artist of all time) but right now 7.9 seems accurate and I wouldn't rate it higher than 8.0 or 8.1 ... After going through so many rock/jazz tracks and so many albums/films/classical works, I don't (currently) see it higher than that. Do you think it's more amazing than, say, the 1st movement of Beethoven's or Mahler's 9th, or than either half of Black Saint & The Sinner Lady? Or, Coleman's entire Free Jazz album? <--Per 15 minutes, I'd say they're pretty close to equal... but Coleman goes for another 20+ and keeps building up quite a bit more emotion by then (not that you need 35 min ... Bach's Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor...) Anyway, the rating shouldn't be seen as a knock. There haven't been a lot of 15 min or less works rated 7.8+ and even an entire album with that rating is one of the best of all time. Grosse Fuge is incredible, but if one compares it to the overpowering/astonishing level of emotion something like Sister Ray achieves in a very similar running time, I feel there's a wide gap between it and the very top of my list (though I hold the right to change my mind!).
My biggest last discovery is Unxerunt Salomonem by Jean-François Le Sueur, the music that was played on the coronation of Napoleon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPKbhKjpYfk
My biggest last discovery is Unxerunt Salomonem by Jean-François Le Sueur, the music that was played on the coronation of Napoleon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPKbhKjpYfk
Looking through your "Greatest Songs/Tracks/Movements" list, I honestly wouldn't put anything there above it. This is definitely the biggest surprise I've seen on any of your lists.
I listen to it as it's own, and find it remarkable, (perhaps a little more emotional/amazing than, say, Interstellar Overdrive -- though my opinion of Grosse Fuge's greatness vary wildly from time to time [as high as 8.8+ at one point]). Basically, it's the friggin' birth of free jazz!
Große Fuge is one of those works I feel iffy about how to listen to. Should an individual listen to it by itself or as part of his 13th quartet? From what I've read, the Große Fuge was published by itself because of it's incomprehensibility. But should we listen to it as Beethoven originally intended - as being the conclusion of his 13th?
You guys should check out his Fratres, for Violin & Piano. It's a breathtaking work. Extremely nostalgic with a sense of stillness and timelessness. It gives off a sort of feeling like trying to retrace a childhood memory and trying to preserve it in some sort of metaphysical prism. I really suck at describing it, but it's one of those very unique works that leaves you with a feeling that seems impossible to describe. Check out the recording by Kremer & Jarrett.
:-) Hahaha, okay... time to take it down now before someone actually takes me seriously!
yop,
"Rene & Angela - I'll Be Good.."
cool, ill check original, i should like it ^^
2 more tracks
Safri duo - Played A live (2000)
Red carpet - Alright (2003) (original mix = trance)
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It depend on the mood. Lately I'm more motets, harp concertos and medieval music, but I will take a look on them on YT or else, when I want something different.
I was happy that on a less than 100 list you put a female composer, in most of the other lists I didn't seen any. The last I discover is baroque composer Bianca Maria Meda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpvunoRv00Y
Carter's music is not for the faint of heart. It is very complex and toweringly technical. However, if you are already acquainted with thorny atonal music, you should have no problem with it. Ljubica Maric's music, on the other hand, is more accessible.
Yes, I've seen your list. Very impressive. And the fact that you linked everyone to a YouTube video is no small feat either! I will give those recordings a listen.
[Scaruffi - the only one here not laughing]
LMAO!
May Fools?
There is no way I could put it in order!
Just like my 1000 best reading, I always change my mind and move the order, I think more and more to make it in date order, just like my movie list, so I will not have to worry about it.
New #1 at the top of the list now. Stunning... just stunning... ;)
Oh crap, thanks for the reminder! :)
Awesome find, thanks for the link :)
I checked it out and... WOW. Put 'em all in order now!!!! (just kidding) :)
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD! That is a LOT of music! I hope that in 30 years I will have caught up to you. There's no ratings, but your top 20 will definitely suffice.
I will take a look later to Elliott Carter, Ljubica Maric... Thx.
Of course it could change (it's friggin Beethoven!), and I'll be more than happy to upgrade it if it does (Beethoven is my favorite artist of all time) but right now 7.9 seems accurate and I wouldn't rate it higher than 8.0 or 8.1 ... After going through so many rock/jazz tracks and so many albums/films/classical works, I don't (currently) see it higher than that. Do you think it's more amazing than, say, the 1st movement of Beethoven's or Mahler's 9th, or than either half of Black Saint & The Sinner Lady? Or, Coleman's entire Free Jazz album? <--Per 15 minutes, I'd say they're pretty close to equal... but Coleman goes for another 20+ and keeps building up quite a bit more emotion by then (not that you need 35 min ... Bach's Tocatta and Fugue in D Minor...) Anyway, the rating shouldn't be seen as a knock. There haven't been a lot of 15 min or less works rated 7.8+ and even an entire album with that rating is one of the best of all time. Grosse Fuge is incredible, but if one compares it to the overpowering/astonishing level of emotion something like Sister Ray achieves in a very similar running time, I feel there's a wide gap between it and the very top of my list (though I hold the right to change my mind!).
Oh, another classical fans!
I have made an update to my 1000 favorite works list, if you want to take a look:
http://www.listology.com/nance/list/my-favorite-classical-works-top-1000
I didn't rate them, because I CAN'T. :P I would not worry too much about rating: rate them and you can later change your mind.
My biggest last discovery is Unxerunt Salomonem by Jean-François Le Sueur, the music that was played on the coronation of Napoleon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPKbhKjpYfk
And I love Charles-Valentin Alkan more and more lately:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQcmBUc0OQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSpvaIIDJu4
Did you hear some of the original Carmina Burana?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJKe-gmZyMs
Hey, it's his list. He could put Dubi Dam Dam at the very top if he wanted to.
Hi, other classical fans!
I have made a mega update to my 1000 favorite works list, if someone want to take a look:
http://www.listology.com/nance/list/my-favorite-classical-works-top-1000
I didn't rate them, because I CAN'T. :P
My biggest last discovery is Unxerunt Salomonem by Jean-François Le Sueur, the music that was played on the coronation of Napoleon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPKbhKjpYfk
Looking through your "Greatest Songs/Tracks/Movements" list, I honestly wouldn't put anything there above it. This is definitely the biggest surprise I've seen on any of your lists.
By all accounts, Beethoven was very reluctant to publish the Große Fuge separately. It was only after much urging (along with some extra cash) that he did so. For an excellent read on the topic, check out this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Grosse-Fuge-Beethovens-Difficult/dp/0810...
Your description is spot on. I've heard that recording you mention, it's amazing. I'm going to revisit it soon :)
I listen to it as it's own, and find it remarkable, (perhaps a little more emotional/amazing than, say, Interstellar Overdrive -- though my opinion of Grosse Fuge's greatness vary wildly from time to time [as high as 8.8+ at one point]). Basically, it's the friggin' birth of free jazz!
Große Fuge is one of those works I feel iffy about how to listen to. Should an individual listen to it by itself or as part of his 13th quartet? From what I've read, the Große Fuge was published by itself because of it's incomprehensibility. But should we listen to it as Beethoven originally intended - as being the conclusion of his 13th?
You guys should check out his Fratres, for Violin & Piano. It's a breathtaking work. Extremely nostalgic with a sense of stillness and timelessness. It gives off a sort of feeling like trying to retrace a childhood memory and trying to preserve it in some sort of metaphysical prism. I really suck at describing it, but it's one of those very unique works that leaves you with a feeling that seems impossible to describe. Check out the recording by Kremer & Jarrett.