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  • What misscurly read in 2014...   31 min 18 sec ago

    Radiance

    Keiko survives the Hiroshima bombing with an ugly radiation scar on her face. The Hiroshima Project brings her to New York to receive cutting edge plastic surgery in an effort to 'heal the wounds'. The attempt is unsuccessful on many levels, and at the end of the book the reader realizes how little anyone knew of the real Keiko.

    Born on a Blue Day

    This book is amazing. It is also exactly what you expect; plain, blunt language with minimal descriptives, sometimes reading more like a technical manual than a personal account of living with a diagnosis on the Autism Spectrum. But, written any other way would not have been true to the author's experience of the world. It simply would not have been a memoir "inside his mind", but rather some other person fancying up what he had told them.

    The details of his story are truly incredible, because unlike the general view of savants, Daniel functions well and interacts socially with the world. He can describe to us how he arrives at his fantastic calculations and mnemonic feats. His mind is beautiful and fascinating, and I thank him for his contributions to the study of the brain as well as to the universal consciousness in sharing his story.

    Clockwork Orange
    (a reread -- one of my favourite Utopian novels)

    Milosz

    Milo's life is stilted as he waits for his father to return from wherever he disappeared to. In the meantime, he assembles his acquaintances in his father's home, to live together as a kind of family. The only person Milo is really open with is the next door neighbour kid, an autistic boy named Robertson. Through Milo's bungled attempts to do the right thing for the people in his life, he eventually begins to live again.

    The Giver
    (A reread -- another one of my favourites)

    From the Dust Returned

    An unusual story about an ancient house which draws together an eternal family of shadows and haunts -- and their adopted human son Timothy, as ordinary as they come.

    Gathering Blue

    The second book in the Giver series. It does not seem to attach to the first in any way.

    Kira lives with her mother in a primitive world without running water or electricity. She has a gift -- she can embroider fantastic images, and occasionally her fingers take over and the creations have magical properties. When her mother suddenly dies, Kira is taken in as an orphan by the elite in the community, who live in a relic building from the past and have many luxuries including running water. Kira soon realizes that she and the other gifted orphans were brought there for a reason, and are more prisoners than guests.

    Messenger

    The third in the Giver series. This makes the connection between the second, and eventually the first books.

    Matty, the ragamuffin from "Gathering Blue" lives with Kira's father in the Village. The Village has a history of accepting refugees from other places, but When discontent begins brewing amongst the villagers, they decide to close the village to any newcomers. Most of the story focuses on Matty's struggle to get through the Forest that seperates Kira from the Village, and their perilous journey back. This book also brings to light several individuals with "gifts", which becomes a recurrent theme in the series.

    Son

    The fourth and final in the Giver series.

    Clare is a link that unites all of the stories together. A teenager in the first community, she runs away the same night as Gabe and Jonah. She reaches the Village by a more circuitous route. Together, the foundlings unite and fight against evil.
    It wasn't exactly what I expected, but I was satisfied with the attention to loose ends.

    Tenant of Wildfell Hall

    A mysterious woman takes up residence in an abandoned Hall with her young son, and the local community is shocked at her snubbing of their society as well as her fierce and independent ideas. As a young landowner falls in love with Helen and begins to unravel the mysteries around her, the reader learns about the lack of women's rights and the suffering and fear that could accompany it.

    Vampyre

    A collection of 12 short stories written by well known authors in the early 19th century. Sharing six stories with the Oxford version also noted, the volume includes
    The Vampyre by John Polidori (one of the first written versions of the vampire legends?)
    The Cremona Violin by ETA Hoffmann (a haunting story of music and death)
    The Lady with the Velvet Collar by Washington Irving (many versions of this story available, involving a collar and a guillotine)
    Leixlip Castle by Charles Maturin (a woman obtains a husband by sorcery)
    The Tapestried Chamber by Sir Walter Scott (a creepy room in an ancient home)
    Monos and Daimonos by Edward Bulwer-Lytton (a man tormented by a fiend, never to be alone)
    The Dream by Mary Shelley (a woman sleeps on a precipice to decide if she should be married)
    The Red Man by Catherine Gore (a secret of parenthood and promises leads to torture)
    The Bride of Lindorf by Letitia E London (a gallant man rescues and promptly marries an imprisoned damsel, only later to discover his mistake)
    Dr Heidegger's Experiment by Nathaniel Hawthorne (experiments with the fountain of youth)
    Passage in the Secret History of an Irish Countess (a young lady barely escapes murder at the hands of her extended family)
    Ligeia by Edgar Allan Poe (a man is haunted by his first wife)

    All the stories are written in the creepy but antiquated language of the time period, which means they aren't really all that creepy at all to the modern (desensitized) reader. They are amusing as the roots of the horror genre. No real duds in this collection; all equally good.

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  • A Clone of theduckthief's Ultimate Reading Compilation   1 hour 10 min ago

    Another year drawing to a close, and I have read an embarrassingly minuscule number of books from this list, currently tallying 293 or 12% of the total.
    My favourite selections from this year's reading include the Narnia series by CS Lewis (of course!), All Quiet on the Western Front by Gabriel Garcia Marquez, and Faces in the Water by Janet Frame. Narnia is absolutely beloved due to nostalgia; my sister and I wore out the VHS tapes of the BBC The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. All Quiet on the Western Front is fantastic both for being told by "the enemy", but also for its easily digestible writing which allows rumination. Faces in the Water provides a fascinating perspective from inside a mental health institution in the 1950s, detailing the barbaric practices as well as the healing (in spite of everything).

    I would love to state a goal for the new year to reach 15% completion of the list, but 70 books in one year is more than I have done in a long time.

  • Please Recommend Music, Films or Paintings to Me   1 hour 34 min ago

    Thanks again, that is an extraordinary album and your description fits really well. I've rated it 7.5 but on two of the listens so far I thought it could be pushing 8/10. I would say Dawson is definitely an artist to look out for and if he keeps progressing down this path, he has a shot at some really amazing work. Hopefully he locks into some superhuman groove between Neutral Milk Hotel's Aeroplane and TMR (including the extended depth/kaleidoscopic content of those works!

  • Films Seen: Listology Scoreboard 2015   1 hour 34 min ago

    I've been in every single one of these since the beginning, so, of course, I'm in again. I feel old seeing that my account will be 10 years old in a few weeks.

    http://listology.com/hinterland/list/films-seen-2015

  • Please Recommend Music, Films or Paintings to Me   1 hour 37 min ago

    Ok cool, I'll go with that and save you the excruciating pain of whittling them down :-)

    Love your passion and write-ups about each of them btw

  • Music Log 2013-2014   3 hours 21 min ago

    Thanks, pretty sure I get what you mean, and I do the same thing, though I am not sure if I approach it exactly the same way. The level of variety on my lists is, presumably, pretty clear to those familiar with the works. Re: Anchorman (which is pretty damn funny) compared to Werckmeister Harmonies (which is absolutely not funny!) ... yea that's a pretty difficult comparison ... But maybe one could comfortably claim that the absurd, relentlessly energetic black comedy and endlessly interesting structure of, say, Pulp Fiction is "at or near the same rating as" the poetic, post-apocalyptic, allegorical nightmare of Werckmeister Harmonies? (just a random example) Maybe one of Hawks more straight-forward comedies or Chaplin/Keaton would be fairer examples than Pulp Fiction (which is much more than a comedy). Anyway, that's of course a rough approximation, but I think most would agree that it's a closer comparison between works of art. I attempt to regard all emotional content (whether comedy or anger or cheerful or sad, etc) as, more or less, basically equal, but try to measure my "degree of amazement", which tends to lean towards "what degree said emotional content was expressed and how compelling was that expression", regardless of genre(s) the film/work of art is in. You and I tend to agree often so I am pretty sure we look for mostly the same thing, at least in regards to our ideals towards art.

    Further note: there seems to be an unmistakable "emotional depth" that the most singular works of art possess, probably for the very fact that they are "singular", which makes them "stand out" historically, and usually makes their vision more indelible (thus "lasting) relative to others. With "singular ", it almost always follows that the degree of emotion and effort invested by the artist was far more extraordinary than efforts to other works by other artists because that artist had to apply more self-determinism, and break through more artistic barriers, and be more of a visionary, and often develop new techniques (or a new combination of techniques), etc.

    Now obviously it is true that no 2 works are exactly the same, so one could say they are "all" singular, which is absolutely true. But there are works that differentiate themselves much further and stand out much more extraordinarily. I assume you agree, based on your past ratings, our past discussions, and also your current system? Maybe I'm even going off topic here, so if needed, consider it a new facet to the discussion altogether :-)

  • Music Log 2013-2014   4 hours 52 min ago

    This is going to be longwinded, so let me apologize ahead of time. I've come to dislike arbitrary rating systems for film, music, etc. I cribbed LukeProg's "rating system" for it's vague, subjective nature. I have some qualms about assigning any sort comparative ratings at all.

    That said, I am glad professional critics use some sort of rating system if only for cataloging purposes. The Dissolve uses a Five star rating system, but they also use the tag "Essential Viewing" which can apply from 3 1/2 stars to 5 stars, which I like.

    Ebert rated films not a universal system, but based on other like films:

    "...the star rating system is relative, not absolute. When you ask a friend if "Hellboy" is any good, you're not asking if it's any good compared to "Mystic River," you're asking if it's any good compared to "The Punisher." And my answer would be, on a scale of one to four, if "Superman" (1978) is four, then "Hellboy" is three and "The Punisher" is two. In the same way, if "American Beauty" gets four stars, then "Leland" clocks in at about two."

    I like that notion. I don't look for the same thing in every film or every album. I watch Anchorman for entirely different reasons than Werckmeister Harmonies. As a silly comedy, Anchorman is clearly a staggering work of heartbreaking genius. Marketa Lazarova simply exists on a separate, parallel spectrum. Judging each film on the same criteria seems to reduce them both.

  • Favorite Movies   8 hours 54 min ago

    The best contemporary filmmaker is, in my opinion, Tsai Ming-liang; he released a string of outstanding films in the 2000's. What Time is it There? and Goodbye, Dragon Inn are the highest flights of cinema. They're very slow moving films, though, with little narrative propulsion. The best living filmmaker is easily Abbas Kiarostami, and I've very happy to see Taste of Cherry at 11; an absolute masterpiece, my favourite film that you list, edging out Pickpocket and Bicycle Thieves. His other 90's films--Where is the Friends Home?, The Wind Will Carry Us, Through the Olive Trees, Life and Nothing More, etc--are essential viewings. I'm excited to see this year's Cannes winner: Winter Sleep. The only Ceylan film I've seen, Climates, is a favourite.

  • Please Recommend Music, Films or Paintings to Me   8 hours 56 min ago

    >would you mind limiting the recs to 5 per category?

    I...I.I...just..can't.... It would be like choosing which one of your children gets to live and the others die. Lol Just pick the ones that sound the most interesting to you. OR randomly pick 5 from each category. Then come back for more when you get bored (if that ever happens).

  • Film Log   9 hours 25 min ago

    Perhaps low expectations will salvage the experience, but I don't know. I went in expecting nothing and still felt I wasted my time. I sincerely hope you are not dragged to it!

  • Media Log 2014   10 hours 14 min ago

    Who, Dern? I prefer the talk show host :D

    Yeah, I might start considering it my favourite Lynch film once I start figuring out what the hell I watched.

  • Films Seen: Listology Scoreboard 2015   10 hours 27 min ago

    I'm in again! My list: Movies Watched in 2015

  • Media Log 2014   11 hours 49 min ago

    Isn't she the cutest?

    Nice that you watched Inland Empire. Did you like it?

  • Please Recommend Music, Films or Paintings to Me   11 hours 58 min ago

    Whoa Neo Geo! Thanks! I'll staple gun these up there as soon as I wake up! That's right, I'm typing in my sleep! See? Zzzzzz ... See? ... Zzzzzz

    Ahem, I want to listen to every last one of those but would you mind limiting the recs to 5 per category? Then as I knock yours out, feel free to add more. (see author comments if necessary)

    Ok now, I'm going to hit the hay... Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (if I just focus long enough...) ... ... ... .. .. .. . . . . . . . . .

  • Media Log 2014   13 hours 3 min ago

    "The scene where she finally confronts the Phantom, oh man... I can never get that image out of my head" Yeah, unfortunately I know exactly what you mean -_-

  • Films Seen: Listology Scoreboard 2015   15 hours 19 min ago
  • Please Recommend Music, Films or Paintings to Me   16 hours 21 min ago

    You said you were looking forward to some recommendations. Very well then.

    For rock music, I highly recommend the following:

    Bügsküll: Phantasies and Senseitions (1995)
    - A very exquisite album. Each song on it is very unique - almost like it was done by a different artist. I've never heard an album with so full of great ideas. Fantastic!
    Dadamah: This Is Not a Dream (1993)
    - No album captures dreariness of daydreaming of the early 1990's as convincingly as this. Each song is infectiously moody. It definitely belongs to its era.
    Einstürzende Neubauten: Zeichnungen des Patienten O.T. (1983)
    - This is one nightmare of an album!
    Feedtime: Feedtime (1985)
    Peter Frohmader: Through Time and Mystery - Ending (1988)

    - Possibly my favorite album. It is everything I've always wanted to hear on an album. I've always been drawn to the sound of retro video game music and this album is true masterpiece of it. It's a mysterious album filled with dark energy & undercurrents that kind of suck you into its netherworld of ghosts, goblins and haunted temples. I feel so lucky to have found it.
    Gnaw Their Tongues: To Rend Each Other Like Wild Beasts, Till Earth Shall Reek With Midnight Massacre (2009)
    - Probably my favorite noise rock album. It is a soundtrack to the apocalypse - where the dead rise from their graves & prepare for the coming of the Antichrist. Galas would love it!
    King Snake Roost: Things That Play Themselves (1988)
    - I don't know what it is about this album, but I like it a lot!
    Ministry: The Land of Rape and Honey (1988)
    Motherhead Bug: Zambodia (1993)
    Neurosis: Through Silver in Blood (1996)

    - Possibly the most intense metal album I've ever listened to. Listening to the title track is akin to being tossed into an inferno. Aeon, the penultimate song, is the sound of an uprising - final last ditch effort to overthrow those who are in power - resulting in a succession of events that are becoming higher and higher in cataclysmic intensity. The last song sounds like the aftermath - a depiction of the devastation after all the bombs have fallen. From start to finish, this album is one hell of a ride.
    Purling Hiss: Purling Hiss (2009)
    Windy & Carl: Drawing of Sound (1996)

    - A minimalist masterpiece. It's so full of energy and beautiful feeling. I cant help but love it.

    And for the classical music:

    Johann Sebastian Bach: The Well-Tempered Clavier (Books I & II; 1722 & 1744)
    Ludwig van Beethoven: Fidelio (1806)

    - An astounding masterwork. Ranking high up there with his Missa Solemnis.
    Johannes Brahms: Ein Deutsches Requiem (1868)
    - Possibly the greatest work of all time. It's every bit as powerful as Verdi's Requiem and, at times, has the joyous splendor of Bach's B Minor mass. Absolutely phenomenal.
    Claude Debussy: Jeux (1912)
    Claude Debussy: Nocturnes (1899)

    - This is one of my all-time favorite works. It has some of the most spellbinding moments I've ever witnessed in music. Especially in the third movement which gives a haunting depiction of ocean waves beneath the moonlit night. There's something about the waves that are calling the individual towards them & into their dark oceanic underworld.
    Charles Ives: Symphony No. 4 (1916)
    György Ligeti: Lontano (1967)

    - This is a truly mesmerizing work. A cosmic masterpiece that can stand in the same league as Klaus Schulze's Irrlicht. There's a particularly otherworldly moment of cool beauty where you feel as though you're staring into an abyss & witnessing the unimaginable.
    Modest Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition (1874)
    - One of the greatest piano cycles of all time. Very expressionistic in style, yet also very psychologically deep. Mussorgsky was an underrated genius.
    Robert Schumann: Fantasie in C Major (1839)
    - This is the quintessential romantic piano masterpiece. Very exuberant in style. Sort of a Symphonie Fantastique for the piano. My favorite movement is the last. It's not just coda to a work, but a coda to life in general. It's not dreadful, poignant or grim in any way. Rather it is a depiction of spiritual resignation. Towards the end of the movement, as the notes begin to speed up, you feel as though things are beginning to "wrap up" in a manner akin to reading the last immortal passages of a novel where things finally "come together" - that fleeting moment where you treasure your fondest memories one last time and then embrace your departure from this world. Its a beautiful ending to a great journey through life. I wouldn't mind it being the last thing I ever listen to.
    Dmitri Shostakovich: Symphony No. 10 in E Minor (1953)
    Karlheinz Stockhausen: Gesang der Jünglinge (1956)
    Igor Stravinsky: Pétrouchka (1911)

    - Not even his Rite of Spring is as rich in abundance of musical ideas as this work. Its an unrelenting tour de force of creative brilliance. Being so full of youthful energy, a work like this never gets tiring.
    Igor Stravinsky: Symphony of Psalms (1930)
    - When I first listened to this it struck me as a work of genius. And now... nothing's changed. Still incredible.
    Giuseppe Verdi: Otello (1887)
    Richard Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen [Cycle of Four Operas: Das Rheingold (1854), Die Walküre (1856), Siegfried (1871) & Götterdämmerung (1874)]

    - I'm not sure if a work of this artistic stature really needs much of an introduction. I'll just emphasize the importance of having patience with it. It's 14 hours of music & it's one of the great musical journeys of all times.
    Richard Wagner: Tristan und Isolde (1859)
    Iannis Xenakis: Metastasis (1954)

    And that about wraps it up for now. I made sure that, with the inclusion of Wagner's operas, this list will keep you busy for a while! And don't forgot about my classical recording guide which may help you during those moments where Scaruffi & your book by penguins fail you. The Third Ear guide is also pretty good - often very historically informed in their recommendations. And my favorite website on classical music is, without a doubt, classicalnotes.net - all of his articles are very extensively written & tremendously insightful. You can't go wrong with his site.

    Have fun!

  • Favorite Movies   16 hours 24 min ago

    Theo Angelopoulos is likely the most extraordinary director since Andrei Tarkovsky, though I wouldn't necessarily recommend him based on your list -- especially since there's no Tarkovsky here...

    Have you seen Coppola's best works (Godfather Part I, Part II, Apocalypse Now, The Conversation) ?

    Other than that, some of the following choices might be too "out-there" (if that's what you mean), but they're all contemporary and extraordinary. Taxidermia and maybe Under the Skin are probably the only 2 that go as far down the experimental rabbit hole as Lynch/Von Trier (and I suppose Tree of Life, Uncle Boonme, Old Boy and Synecdoche could be added to those in their own way...).

    Werckmeister Harmonies - Tarr (2000)
    Memento - Nolan (2001)
    Hero - Yimou (2002)
    Time - Ki-duk (2006)
    Old Boy - Chan-wook (2003)
    Cache - Haneke (2005)
    21 Grams - Inarritu (2003)
    Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Gondry (2004)
    The Willow Tree - Majidi (2005)
    The Duchess of Langeais - Rivette (2007)
    Synecdoche, New York - Kaufman (2008)
    The Tree of Life - Malick (2011)
    Under the Skin - Jonathan Glazer (2014)
    Amores Perros - Inarritu (2000)
    Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter and Spring - Ki-duk (2003)
    Southland Tales - Kelly (2005)
    The Science of Sleep - Gondry (2006)
    Amelie - Jeunet (2001)
    Taxidermia - Palfi (2006)
    The Lives of Others - Donnersmarck (2007)
    The Beat That My Heart Skipped - Audiard (2005)
    Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives - Weerasethakul (2010)
    2046 - Kar Wai (2004)
    There Will Be Blood - Anderson (2007)
    Adaptation - Jonze (2002)
    Waltz With Bashir - Folman (2008)
    No Country For Old Men - Coen (2007)
    Requiem For A Dream - Aronofsky (2000)
    The White Ribbon - Haneke (2009)
    Children of Men - Cuaron (2006)
    The State I Am In - Petzold (2000)

  • Favorite Movies   16 hours 44 min ago

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  • Favorite Movies   17 hours 52 min ago

    You Can't, with a capatial "C"! :D I thought you hadn't seen any Hertzfeldt movies before but if you have, good, yeah, watch them again sometime. I recently watched his I Am So Proud Of You and it was life-changing experience. I love Hertfeldt's philosophy (it's very similar to my own) and I Am So Proud Of You is his strongest philosophical statement.

    I gave up on watching von Trier films for now. It doesn't feel good to watch another psycho's films right after I watched every Lynch film. Is there a not-totally-cuckoo great contemporary director you would like to recommend? (except Tarantino, Scorsese and Jarmusch)

  • Music Log 2013-2014   23 hours 1 min ago

    Im curious: Do you have ratings that correspond with your categories such as "Favorite" is 8.5+, "Loved" is 7.5-8.4, etc... Something like that?

  • Favorite Movies   23 hours 58 min ago

    I've seen those ones too (about 5 years ago) and they're great as well, but I'll probably revisit them at some point. Re: #14 ... Rats! I must not have as much emotional depth as the others! I'll work on that! And, woe is me, how can I compete with Von Trier -- with a capital "V"?

  • Favorite Videogames   1 day 2 hours ago

    The fact that so many sites still name the Super Mario series as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" video game series ever only tells you how far video games still are from becoming a serious art. Film critics have long recognized that the greatest directors of all times are Orson Welles and Stanley Kubrick, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical music critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Video game critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Super Mario series sold more than anything else (not true, by the way), therefore it must have been the greatest. Film critics grow up watching a lot of film of the past, classical music critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Video game critics are often totally ignorant of the video games of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the creators of the Super Mario series did anything worthy of being saved.

    Lol I love Super Mario games but i don't feel that a Scaruffi parody such as this is far off base. Whether or not you consider video games as a serious art depends on what you define as "art". If art is to be understood as a creative medium designed to provide an abstracted form of insight into the human psyche then, at first sight, there doesn't seem to be much to be found in video games (not in the famous ones anyways). It's not hard to see that video games has largely been an industry marketed towards kids. Which explains why many of the classics, while being extremely well-crafted & original, are rather insipid in terms of their "content". What is there in a silly plot that consists of a princess being kidnapped by an evil turtle and a plumber traversing a labyrinth of dangerous obstacles to rescue her that will send a person into an odyssey of the soul? Not much. Nor was it meant to in the first place. Some say that video games can't reach the status of serious art anyways, arguing that the act of aesthetic contemplation that defines art and the gaming aspect (the strive towards the very concrete goal of winning or solving a puzzle) of video games are potentially coexisting but irreconcilably different phenomena. It could be that one of these aspects (or activities of the mind) increases to the extent that the other decreases. After one beats a game one likes to believe that what he has experienced as art but what was really going on in the person's mind during the process of playing the game? How much progress (distance one has moved towards the goal of winning) will one make if the person spends his time contemplating the artistic significance of the Koopa Troopas and the block formations? By the same token, how much artistic contemplation will go on in one's mind if it spends the entire time figuring out how to get past those Koopa Troopas and block formations in order to beat the game?

    I really don't have a solid stance on video games yet. Mainly because I've hardly explored them. Though for what little games I have played I might legitimately describe a few of them as "art". Maybe not "high art", but art nonetheless. I'm mainly exploring the retro classics right now. My favorite so far has been Yoshi's Island. In it you will not find a trace of profundity or intellectual posturing. Yet I feel it would be unfair to outright dismiss it as a work of no account since for all its seemingly superficialities it is a marvelously crafted and original 2-D plat-former that quite effectively draws a person into it's highly imaginative, childish fantasy world. It is a rather absorbing experience for me. It never takes itself seriously & that may be what makes it so much fun & engaging. Everything about it seems right. It's superficial, but delightfully so. It may be the case that we are conditioned to accept as art only what is "deep". If art can also be seen as an inexpressive thing that emphasizes form over content, then it wouldn't seem so crazy to call Yoshi's Island something of a minor masterpiece (about a 7/10). But still it seems misleading to say the game is expressionless otherwise where would its wonderful childish atmosphere come from? To reiterate, I feel an outright dismal of its potential status as "art" is to discredit it. It is not just pure entertainment taking place here. There is a bar set by games like this that set a standard of creativity that many developers strive towards, but rarely achieve. Games like Yoshi's Island tower above a sea of mediocrity.

    But enough with the "kiddie" masterpieces. I totally understand your sentiments. And it would be nice to see some games with some real "depth". I've heard good remarks on Shadow of the Colossus. It's pretty much the go-to recommendation for those seeking out a "video-game as art". Lukeprog, in his last video game list update, before he pulled the plug on his brief, though fruitful, video game endeavor, ranked Shadow of the Colossus as the greatest of all time (though he only gave it a 6.4/10 lol). The Myst which you speak of sounds interesting. It hasn't escaped Scaruffi's attention either. I heard its sequel, Riven, was even greater & more challenging. Half Life with its "novel-level plot and characters"(Scaruffi's words) might be pretty good. I haven't played any of these games yet but I will. I've played Silent Hill 4 ages ago and I do remember being terrified by it! I heard the first 2 Silent Hill games were classics. You may also be interested in knowing that The Residents had there own game as well that was called The Residents' Bad Day on the Midway. That ought to be interesting! I would say LSD: Dream Emulator is a bona fide work of art if there ever was one. How it stands as a "video game" may be debatable. But I really enjoy traversing it's surreal dreamscapes with its hallucinogenic music. Its probably one of the most innovative games of its era. Its creator, Osamu Sato, is kind of the Von Lmo of video games: a great visionary that spent most of his career in obscurity. There is a very insightful article about him and and his game, Eastern Mind, found here. Despite his highly original & imaginative style he stands aloof in the gaming industry in manner that's probably not so different from that of Syd Barrett. Perhaps he felt the world was too unappreciative of his work. It's an understandable attitude. Originality isn't as highly valued and rewarded in the video game community as it is in the fine arts community. It's sad state of affairs, really. Due to the often high costs of video game development & manufacturing, companies are often forced to ponder to popular demand, which in turn hinders the progress of video games becoming a serious art, since original ideas are often scrapped for the ones that will be the most profitable. Just as with the film industry, I would say that the biggest hope right now for the artistic development of the gaming world lies in the hands of independent developers.