Is There a List You Would Like to See (One That Hasn't Been Made Yet?)
IF THERE IS, GIVE ME THE TITLE HERE AND I'LL ADD IT TO THIS LIST - You never know, someone might be inspired to make it.
BUT BEFORE YOU SUGGEST A LIST it would be a good idea to use Listology's Search Engine (near top left of each page) to make sure the list hasn't already been made. It is your responsibility to do this, not mine. But here are some tips about searching:
(1) Listology's Search Engine - Limit the search categories to 'Lists' and 'Movies' or whatever the appropriate category is, and then, if your proposed list is about, say, directors, just enter that word. Unfortunately, the results will not be limited to lists with the word 'director(s)' in their title. So, next you use your browser's 'Find on this page' function to find only list titles that include 'director(s)'.
(2) Searching Listology using Google - In Google enter a key word or phrase of your list idea, in quotation marks, followed by:
site:listology.com
LISTS OUTSIDE OF LISTOLOGY - There's a good chance the list you have in mind, or something like it, already exists somewhere else on the web. But don't let that put you off the idea. I see no reason why Listology shouldn't have its own version of any list. But please don't post a copy of a list you didn't make yourself unless you also acknowledge your source.
YOU CAN ALSO VOTE HERE FOR A LIST IDEA SOMEONE ELSE HAS COME UP WITH - Votes would probably increase the likelihood that someone will attempt to make the list. If you wish to vote anonymously you can e-mail it to me.
NOTE that although this list is classified under 'Movies', list ideas can be for any category you like.
This list resulted from the discussion between Jim and lukeprog at this list of mine.
1. Most Emotional Modern Compositions "[Would be a list] focusing on works that express great emotion, regardless of technical or innovative merit. For example, Shostakovich's 15th symphony or Adams' Harmonielehre, not Rihm's Jagden Und Formen or something by Morton Feldman. "Modern composition" could mean any notational music written after 1940, I suppose." [List proposed by lukeprog on 25 October 2005]
2. When a soundtrack destroys an otherwise great movie. [List proposed by stumpy on 25 October 2005] [This idea has received 1 VOTE (from bertie)]
3. Similar characteristics unconsciously carried by an actor from film
to film. [List proposed by stumpy on 25 October 2005]
4. Trademark characteristics consciously used by an actor from film to
film. [List proposed by stumpy on 25 October 2005]
5. Best film restorations. [List proposed by stumpy on 25 October 2005]
6. Best music restorations (remastering). [List proposed by stumpy on 25 October 2005]
7. A Complete List of the Varieties of Human Experience - How many different sorts of experience are we capable of, and what are they? [List proposed by bertie on 26 October 2005]
8. Greatest Opening or Closing Credits Sequences in Movies [List proposed by RosieCotton on 27 October 2005] [This idea has received 2 VOTES (from bertie, MarlaSinger)]
9. What the Author Thought - What authors thought about adaptations of their novel(s). [List proposed by russa03 on 31 October 2005]
10. Directors' Obsessions - Recurring themes and things (for lack of a better word) that appear in their work. Examples:-
Alfred Hitchcock - Domineering mothers
Hayao Miyazaki - Flying
David Lynch - Red curtains [List proposed by russa03 on 31 October 2005] [This list idea has received 2 VOTES (from bertie and 1922)]
11. Editions of 1001 Movies - How Do They Differ? [List proposed by RosieCotton on 1 November 2005]
12. History's Highest Battle Casualties [List proposed by pianoshootis on 1 November 2005] [This list idea has received 3 VOTES (from bertie, lukeprog and 1922)]
13. Movies Based Upon Greek Mythology or Ancient Greek Literature [List proposed by bertie on 3 November 2005]
14. Alphabet of My Favorite Place-Names This would be a list of exactly 26 geographic place-names from anywhere in the world, or from a particular country. You could even make one list from your own country and another list from the rest of the world. Useless, probably, but interesting. [List proposed by bertie on 6 November 2005] [This is a list (or set of lists) we can all do. The ones I want to see are yours - and mine, since I haven't made mine yet. LATER: I have now made two lists about Australian place names, one of Aboriginal names and the other of European names.]
15. The Ten Ugliest Male Movie Actors of All Time [List proposed by bertie on 7 November 2005]
16. The Ten Ugliest Female Movie Actors of All Time [List proposed by bertie on 7 November 2005]
17. Oddball Facts About Famous Philosophers [List proposed by bertie on 16 November 2005] [Please note that I have now begun work on this list. I should have known I couldn't resist the temptation.]
18. Help Us Make a List of Embarrassed Pairs of Cinema Queues [lbangs tells a funny story (which see). His story gave me the idea for this list proposal.] [This list idea has received 1 VOTE, from lbangs]
19. A History of Aerospace Technology told in Movies [Suggestions 19 thru 23 made on 10 Feb. 2006 by betie ('betie' indeed! I think my keyboard's finally seizing up).]
20. A History of Communications Technology told in Movies
21. A History of Land Transport Technology told in Movies
22. A History of Sea Transport Technology told in Movies
23. A History of Medicine told in Movies
Thanks, bertie. Let's see if this thing flies.
Don't know if anyone else on Listology is interested in "new music", but I'd love to see someone more knowledgeable than I write a list called "Most Emotional Modern Compositions", focusing on works that express great emotion, regardless of technical or innovative merit. For example, Shostakovich's 15th symphony or Adams' Harmonielehre, not Rihm's Jagden Und Formen or something by Morton Feldman. "Modern composition" could mean any notational music written after 1940, I suppose.
A few off the top...
1. When a soundtrack destroys an otherwise great movie.
2. Similar characteristics unconsciously carried by an actor from film to film.
3. Trademark characteristics consciously used by an actor from film to film.
3. Best film restorations.
4. Best music restorations (remastering).
They're up.
I have a question. Who's going to know what an actor does either consciously or unconsciously in his/her movies?
I suspect each topic will lead to further discussion. Primarily the unconscious category.
Example: Clint Eastwood
consciously - squints;
unconsciously - (you'll need to let the cat out of the bag on just how much or little you truly know about any given star for these.)
Come on Listology film buffs! How much do you pay attention to the stars? How about Al Pacino or Jack Nicholson from film to film. Even the cast of Scrubs from episode to episode. Bertie asked, I gave. Any others?
I'm still dubious about these ideas, but that doesn't mean you won't strike a chord with someone.
And, come to think of it, I like your movie-destroying soundtracks idea, so I'm voting for it.
I guess I was being somewhat dubious when I listed them, knowing full well that that kind of depth doesn't really exist here anymore. ah well...
I'd like to see a movie list for for greatest opening or closing titles (ie: credits). The great Saul Bass was one of the "best ever graphic designers for film, as he has created the credits and title sequences of over 60 films."
I just saw Delicatessen (1991)which has an amazing opening title sequence designed by Marc Bruckert.
I too would like to see such a list, so I have voted for it.
I'm sort of intrigued by that "human experience" idea. What precisely do you mean by that? Could you give some examples?
I might take that up...very interesting indeed.
I've sort of cheated a bit with this idea, because I have already set out the bare bones of such a list here among my philosophy lists. But that list is far from being as compehensive as the list I would like to see. You are welcome to borrow from my list and build upon it.
I'm not sure these haven't already been done
What the Author Thought - What authors thought about adaptations of their novel(s).
Directors Obsessions - Recurring themes and things (for lack of a better word) that appear in their work. Examples:-
Alfred Hitchcock - Domineering mothers
Hayao Miyazaki - Flying
David Lynch - Red curtains
Interesting ideas. I believe I'll vote for Directors' Obsessions.
As to whether they might have been done already, it's the proposer's responisbility to check that out.
I'm not sure (again) about how i should find out if these lists have been done. Should i check everybody's list one by one? Should i put 'Directors Obsessions' in the Search Engine?
You have a point. The best procedure I can suggest is to limit the search categories to 'Lists' and 'Movies', then, since your proposed list is about directors, just enter that word. Unfortunately, the results are not limited to lists with the word 'director(s)' in their title. So, next you use your browser's 'Find on this page' function to find only list titles that include 'director(s)'. Tedious.
Perhaps Jim can come up with a better suggestion. If he doesn't notice this, I'll eventually e-mail him about it.
Maybe add a note somewhere on this list asking folks to post a link in the comments that points to the list they created in response to a request?
Jim, I think what's of most concern to us is that a list we might want to suggest might already exist somewhere in Listology - and how best to find out if it does.
Hmm. In addition to the built-in search feature, you can Google Listology-only. For example, "Directors Obsessions".
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I'd like to see a list which compares each edition of the 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die, showing which movies are in which editions.
I was thinking of a list of the battles with the most casualties. Not sure if this has been done or if accurate numbers would be too difficult to find.
I hope you'll forgive my little jest of putting your list title in blood red. I'll undo that if you wish.
Truth to tell, because of my recent research for my WW2 Movies lists, I too am somewhat interested in this topic. One question is, how do you define a battle? - was the Siege of Stalingrad one battle or several? I have seen estimates in excess of 3 million casualties for that horror.
And speaking of research, have any of you had trouble logging on to WIKIPEDIA recently? The last couple of times I tried it froze up my PC.
I'm not sure how it should be defined either. If I were to do it I'd probably say as long as neither side retreats or surrenders or dies it could be considered one battle, even with breaks from the action.
Wikipedia is usually slow for me and occasionally crashes my Internet Explorer, but it doesn't seem any worse now.
Thanks for the feedback on Wikipedia. From the sound of that I probably had too many programs running at once when I tried to log on.
Not to ice up your machine but Wikipedia has a list of wars & battles that doesn't look wikerroneous. You can see why Soviets feel (justifiably) ignored about the part that they have played in the Wars. I'd say that a "battle" would be any continuous engagement. This would include any siege shorter than a decade. Once you hit the ten year mark it's battles galore.
In another vein: I had to write (because I had to) an essay comparing two out of three from the group of Alfred Hitchcock, Peter Weir and Lina Wertmüller. See-ya-later-Lina! The essay sucked but I (because I had to) made up some themes that overlapped for Hitchcock and Weir. I do know that some conventional Hitchcockian obsessions include icy blondes, innocent men on the run from both the criminals and the police, toilets and making a cameo in his own films.
I haven't seen much Weir (and only a little more Hitchcock) but from the three films I've seen (because I had to) he has a thing for characters deciding whether or not to live (and die) in the real world or the world of imagination, innocent heroes and worldly and/or cynical best friends. I've also been told that he also has a thing for radios... I prefer blondes.
Speaking for myself, I'm only concerned about the possibility of putting on the list an idea that has already been realised somewhere in Listology. When I start constructing a new list I use search engines to do research, but I don't go looking for lists out there on the www that might have anticipated the one I'm working on for fear of finding them - there's no surer way of killing your enthusiasm for the project.
No battle longer than ten years? - what about the Siege of Troy?
You've persuaded me (don't know if you meant to) that the 'Directors' Obsessions' list would have to be an open-ended project contributed to by several Listologists who would write about their favorite directors (or ones they had to learn about). May I suggest that you host such a list? Fill out your My Content page a bit :-)
There was the battle at the boats where Protesilaus fell for the "last one in is a rotten egg and will be killed by Hector... or Euphorbus... possibly Aeneas's friend Achates." He really should have stuck around to hear the entire refrain. After that we marched down the field but then Achilles was called for a face mask penalty on Cycnus and we were forced to punt.
Then Troy was ringed by Greeks. Well, not so much "ringed," more like "horseshoed". Hey, it was a big city.
So we trashed the suburbs for about nine years. Phocaea, Smyrna and Lesbos (we didn't ask, we didn't tell); Clazomenae, Cyme and Colophon (that was a real pain in the... Ares); Aegialus, Tenos, Elevenos, Twelvos and Cheerios; Adramyttium, Dide, Endium (in overtime), Linnaeum and Linolaeum (very strange floors in that town); Colone, Lyrnessus, Antandrus and Hypoplacian Thebes (which is really hard to say after a couple of amphorae.) Which reminds me, if I ever hear Diomedes' cousin wandering through the tents yelling "I'm thirsty Thersites and I'm for another amphora!" I swear by Athena I'll make him an Augean stable boy.
Be that as it may. Nine years go by. I'll say this for the Greeks: they're slow but ineffective. Quick time out to frame "No Pal O' Mine" Palomedes as a collaborator and then it was back to the sacking with occasional pillaging as needed.
Battle. Battle. Battle. Then on the weekend Ajax tried to cleanse Hector's clock in single combat. On Monday it was back to the daily battle. Patroclus gets whacked wearing Achilles's jersey and then the battling begins in earnest. Achilles comes off the snit list to go at it with Hector. Thinking that Achilles wasn't in game shape Hector ran three times around the city walls (show-off.) Achilles finally caught up with Hector and gave him the ol' Inglewood jack. He then dragged Hector's body behind his chariot around the city. He did this three times a day and, as if that wasn't bad enough, he had "Just Married to Briseis" painted on the back of his chariot.
Monday: battle, Tuesday: battle, Wednesday: Amazons (now that was a battle), Thursday: battle, Friday no battle as everyone left early to beat the traffic for the three day weekend. Then the real fun starts. Achilles gets stomped. Ajax (the only true hero of the lot) commits suicide. I don't know what went wrong but he won't return my calls... I still miss him. Philoctes shows up a day and a half after his odour. We have a scavenger hunt for Pelops's shoulder-blade, the Palladium, three ice cube trays, a left shoe and a couch cushion.
Finally we build an aptly named Trojan Horse and a bunch of us hid inside while Menelaus and Agamemnon pretended that we were going to a drive-in movie. It was an Wolfgang Petersen film festival but, lucky for us, they had only gotten up to Air Force One and nobody heard us giggling inside the horse. You know what happened next.
The grandmother of all battles. Flames. Smoke. Insurance agents. And then it was time to pack up for the short ride home.
So have you sent the whole manuscript to a publisher? Don't let them call it The NotFeelingVeryWelliad.
It'll be called: We Be Illiadin'
Straight Outta Ithaca
I vote for History's Highest Battle Casualties.
First list to receive two votes.
What I'd like to see now is voting from someone who isn't you nor me nor Jim.
CAUTION: Trikipedia.
I haven't clicked on your Trikipedia link, and, if it's a Wikipedian list of battle casualties, I don't think I will. Thanks all the same.
I vote for all 11. Really interesting suggestions until now!
As Syndrome says, in The Incredibles: "When everyone's a superhero, then no one will be." By which I mean to say, a vote for all is a vote for none.
I like all of them, but give from my part a vote to each #10 and #12.
12. Already compiled HERE.
I'd like to vote for No. 8 (Opening or Closing Credits) and I really feel like doing that list myself...
Okay, as far as I'm concerned - go for it. You don't need anyone's permission, and even if there's already a list like this at Listology (I'm not saying there is) it doesn't matter - we often borrow each other's ideas for lists. In fact Jim has provided each list with a 'clone' button you can press if you want to start your own version of another Listologist's list.
I would like to see A Chronological Order Of The Best Discussions On The Listology, which of course would have to be made by a long standing Listologist (which does include you :)).
I wasn't sure if you noticed the Most Discussed list. If not, that's a good list of the most extensive discussions and probably has a good number of the best as well.
It was that page that prompted me to suggest the list. It has certainly some of the best discussions but there are many more that are hidden somewhere in archieved lists here. If someone who has been here for sometime and someone who could put in some time to it, I'm sure they can dig out some of the discussions. It would be a great list.